V5 VBK file names

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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby mcwill » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:45 pm

John,

Thanks for the suggestions, however whilst we are using rsync to perform the remote replication - it is built into the QNAP NAS and only offers limited control over rsync (specify source folder & destination folder and not much else!).

Hence the reason why we have been eagerly awaiting this update.

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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Bunce » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:19 am

We're in the same boat (QNAP to QNAP). Just got the hotfix and running the first incremental. Doesn't look to have changed the name yet -> I'm hoping its not just for new backup jobs...
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Vitaliy S. » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:46 am

Andrew, the hotfix provided will change a VBK name after a Full run only.
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Bunce » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:01 am

Which is a Active Full Backup for reverse-incrementals isn't it?

Gostev wrote:Specifically, changing VBK naming behavior affects two things:

1. Performing active (real) full backup manually or on schedule messes up backup set. The hotfix will disable active fulls altogether when this registry key is enabled, to make sure no one can initiate active full accidentally.



I've just set the existing job to run an Active Full Backup on Tuesday's (today) and am running a backup now... Doesn't seem to be changing the name?
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Vitaliy S. » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:12 am

Bunce wrote:Which is a Active Full Backup for reverse-incrementals isn't it?

Yes, that's correct.

Bunce wrote:I've just set the existing job to run an Active Full Backup on Tuesday's (today) and am running a backup now... Doesn't seem to be changing the name?

Have you restarted Veeam service after applying the registry key? If everything was done according to the instructions, I believe it's better to have our technical team take a look at it.
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Bunce » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:15 am

No probs - just tried it on another job and it worked fine.

I think maybe because I'd already run an incremental today on the first job (before changing the settings to run an Active Full today), that it doesn't pick up the change when running it again? I'll set that job to do an Active Full tomorrow and see what happens.

Thanks,
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Vitaliy S. » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:22 am

Not sure it should be affected, but please update us on how it worked for you tomorrow.
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby chad5k1 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:12 pm

How can i get the registry key
I've just realised that it is this that has caused all our replication pains since the upgrade to v5!
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Gostev » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:29 pm

You can get it via support.
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Yuki » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:57 pm

I would love to have an ability to set naming schema, at least partially. If i could have the names with a particular string - it would make our backup file off-siting a lot easier since then we could filter based on the name than trying a lot more complex scripts looking at creation date.

Maybe something where we can inject a distinct, separate strings into full and incremental.
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Gostev » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:31 pm

Yuki wrote:I would love to have an ability to set naming schema, at least partially. If i could have the names with a particular string - it would make our backup file off-siting a lot easier since then we could filter based on the name than trying a lot more complex scripts looking at creation date.

Please clarify this, because I do not fully understand your request. We do actually allow configuring "base" backup file name in UI today already...

Yuki wrote:Maybe something where we can inject a distinct, separate strings into full and incremental.

Hmm, so how come different file extensions do not work for you today? File extension is arguably easiest possible method of distinguishing full and incremental backup files, am I not right?
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Yuki » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:39 pm

Please clarify this, because I do not fully understand your request. We do actually allow configuring "base" backup file name in UI today already...


Maybe I've missed where this is adjusted - can you point me to the right location?

Hmm, so how come different file extensions do not work for you today? File extension is arguably easiest possible method of distinguishing full and incremental backup files, am I not right?


If i keep 4 full (made on Sundays) and the rest incrementals - Simply filtering for VBK in order to copy latest files for off-siting will fetch me 4 files. Actually, having the ability to put week1 (full+incremental) in one folder then week2 in another and so on would be even more useful.
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby Gostev » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:56 pm

Backup Destination step of backup job wizard, backup file name editbox (pre-populated by job name by default).
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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby gwhite » Mon May 16, 2011 7:02 pm

Gostev wrote:rsync backup is not a problem, it can be configured to write into the same target file, I attached sample shell script that selects the latest VBK and copies it over to the existing VBK file on target.

Tape backup is not a problem either, see backup naming when using reversed incremental. But the benefit is that now you can actually see by file name of backup stored on tape or elsewhere when it was taken... while previously, you would have dozens of file with the same name...


Gostev,

Could you perhaps explain in a bit more detail how to implement your shell script?

Thanks!

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Re: V5 VBK file names

Postby A3_h » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:27 am

Is there someone arround that converted Gostev's offsite_rsync.sh linux script to a Windows version? Or build a version wich is working with the new naming standaard. I am now using the reg hack provided bij the support but they are not supporting it.. :-(
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