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Backups too fast (600 MB/s)

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Hi guys,

I'm seeing really weird numbers in our backup times which have me worried...

7/05/2018 10:02:53 a.m. :: Hard disk 1 (127.0 GB) 24.0 GB read at 481 MB/s (sent in 55 seconds)
7/05/2018 10:03:57 a.m. :: Hard disk 2 (200.0 GB) 12.0 GB read at 600 MB/s (sent in 3 minutes and 19 seconds)
7/05/2018 10:09:22 a.m. :: Hard disk 1 (127.0 GB) 98.9 GB read at 542 MB/s ( sent in 3 minutes and 10 seconds)
7/05/2018 10:13:59 a.m. :: Hard disk 1 (50.0 GB) 38.1 GB read at 413 MB/s ( sent in 1 minute and 36 seconds)

This isn't physically possible for the drives to read this fast, and definitely not possible to send that much data (24 GB in 55 seconds) across a simple Ethernet network. Is this some sort of metadata speed calculation that includes things like compression and white space? What is the point of these kinds of statistics?
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Is this an incremental job run?
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Yes.
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Incremental runs are always significantly faster because they need to process only a few changed blocks, not the entire VMDK.
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So even though it says "98.9 GB read" it is only doing the changed blocks for that 98.9 GB? No wonder the speed calculation is absurd!

Perhaps Veeam B&R could start using actual data transferred divided by the time to give the actual speed?
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This is not the transfer speed, but the speed of reading (processing) disk data. Transfer speed is calculated from the actually sent data.
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Ok, so just to recap...
98.9 GB read at 542 MB/s ( sent in 3 minutes and 10 seconds)
Am I correct in saying:
- B&R didn't actually read 98.9GB, it only read the changed blocks of that 98.9GB.
- B&R didn't actually read all 98.9GB at 542 MB/s, it read the changed blocks of that 98.9GB at 542MB/s.
- B&R didn't actually send 98.9 GB in 3 minutes and 10 seconds, it sent the changed blocks in 3 minutes and 10 seconds.
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AlexLeadingEdge wrote:- B&R didn't actually read 98.9GB, it only read the changed blocks of that 98.9GB.
Correct.
AlexLeadingEdge wrote:- B&R didn't actually read all 98.9GB at 542 MB/s, it read the changed blocks of that 98.9GB at 542MB/s.
Not at 542MB/s, but at some actual speed. 542MB/s is calculated from the entire 98.9GB of "processed" disk data, most of which is simply skipped.
AlexLeadingEdge wrote:- B&R didn't actually send 98.9 GB in 3 minutes and 10 seconds, it sent the changed blocks in 3 minutes and 10 seconds.
Correct.
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I wish I had this problem!
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