Benefit of SCVMM?

Hyper-V specific discussions

Benefit of SCVMM?

Veeam Logoby Justin » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:24 pm

Hello All,

We had a consultation with a presales engineer a week or so ago and, paraphrasing, he said that he was unfamiliar with anyone using a Hyper-V cluster without using SCVMM and was concerned that there may be issues as we are not planning on using the product. He has not got back to me with any information so I am reaching out to the community. I will have five servers clustered with a 3par as the CSV storage. I was not planning on using VMM. Will the lack of VMM hinder me in any way? Backup targets will be a generic FC storage array and a StoreOnce 4500.

Thank you for the input and forgive me if I misquoted the PSE, this is simply information I took away, I may have misunderstood.

Justin
Justin
Novice
 
Posts: 7
Liked: never
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:27 pm

Re: Benefit of SCVMM?

Veeam Logoby nmdange » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:12 am

If we're talking about a single Hyper-V cluster, it won't impact Veeam at all really. VMM can be useful with multiple clusters as you just add VMM to Veeam and it adds everything at once, instead of one Hyper-V cluster at a time. It also helps for tracking a VM that is migrated between clusters or standalone hosts.

Outside of backups, VMM makes various admin tasks easier, like templates for creating VMs, setting up virtual switches, applying consistent network or storage qos, dynamic optimization, that sort of thing. But it is in no way required.
nmdange
Expert
 
Posts: 194
Liked: 57 times
Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:30 pm

Re: Benefit of SCVMM?

Veeam Logoby Justin » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:21 pm

Yes, just a single Hyper-V cluster composed of five nodes. This may expand in the future but that is unlikely.

I have SCVMM installed for the TEST environment, but we are on the smaller side and other than single pane of glass visibility, I have not really found it helpful. Maybe someday, but again, unlikely.


Thanks for your input.
Justin
Novice
 
Posts: 7
Liked: never
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:27 pm

Re: Benefit of SCVMM?

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:53 am

Hi Justin,

SCVMM simplifies Hyper-V management when you have lots of hosts and clusters. With a single Failover Cluster you will not lose any capabilities in Veeam B&R. On a side note, to get complete visibility into your Hyper-V infrastructure install free version of Veeam ONE. In version 9 there will infrastructure assessment reports that would allow you to configure your infrastructure according to the known best practices.

Thanks!
Vitaliy S.
Veeam Software
 
Posts: 19564
Liked: 1104 times
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov

Re: Benefit of SCVMM?

Veeam Logoby vClintWyckoff » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:42 pm

Justin-
As @Vitaliy mentions, Veeam ONE will be a great addition to ensuring your Hyper-V environment and VMs within are always performing optimally. Also, a great tool comes from 5Nine Software (www.5nine.com) where they have a free version of their 5Nine Manager for Hyper-V. Personally I think it simplifies a lot of the activities that VMM can make slightly more challenging ;)

Check it out, it's free!
vClintWyckoff
Veeam Software
 
Posts: 401
Liked: 92 times
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:22 am
Location: Technical Evangelist
Full Name: Clint Wyckoff

Re: Benefit of SCVMM?

Veeam Logoby Justin » Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:42 am

Vitaliy S. wrote:Hi Justin,

SCVMM simplifies Hyper-V management when you have lots of hosts and clusters. With a single Failover Cluster you will not lose any capabilities in Veeam B&R. On a side note, to get complete visibility into your Hyper-V infrastructure install free version of Veeam ONE. In version 9 there will infrastructure assessment reports that would allow you to configure your infrastructure according to the known best practices.

Thanks!


Thanks Vitaliy. We licensed One so no limitations there.

vClintWyckoff wrote:Justin-
As @Vitaliy mentions, Veeam ONE will be a great addition to ensuring your Hyper-V environment and VMs within are always performing optimally. Also, a great tool comes from 5Nine Software (http://www.5nine.com) where they have a free version of their 5Nine Manager for Hyper-V. Personally I think it simplifies a lot of the activities that VMM can make slightly more challenging ;)

Check it out, it's free!


I've been hearing a lot about 5Nine lately. I may be giving it a shot soon. I have VMM in test but don't use any of the features to justify its complexity. 5Nine sounds like a winner.
Justin
Novice
 
Posts: 7
Liked: never
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:27 pm

Re: Benefit of SCVMM?

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:20 pm

If you own Veeam ONE then definitely deploy it and integrate with Veeam B&R to get all cool new reports!
Vitaliy S.
Veeam Software
 
Posts: 19564
Liked: 1104 times
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov


Return to Microsoft Hyper-V



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: allynz and 5 guests