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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by v.Eremin » Dec 13, 2018 2:03 pm

As mentioned, Cool as well as Hot access tier should work without any issues, while Archive one will not be support in the initial release. Thanks!

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by crackocain » Dec 13, 2018 2:13 pm

Thank you Vladimir.

I'm assumed at start Archieve Tier is enough but it was not good fit. If it isn't supported good to know.

Cool blob 0.016$/gb per month is affordable price for my customers.
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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by v.Eremin » Dec 13, 2018 2:55 pm

Correct, Cool tier will be the cheapest option for storing the data (besides Archive, of course), but the cost for data retrieval and removal will be a bit higher for this access tier. Thanks!

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by Gostev » Dec 13, 2018 7:35 pm

I would like to re-emphasize what Vladimir said.

One important thing to keep in mind with public cloud object storage is transaction costs to actually put your data there. Most people only look at actual storage costs, so API costs always come as a nasty surprise along with the first bill. While of course, API costs are negligible for data archiving use cases, such as offloading GFS backups to the cloud and keeping them there for a few years - they may hurt when we're talking about just a few months, easily doubling your bill. And I am not even talking about performing restores yet.

The good news is not all cloud object storage providers charge you for API. The bad news is that both Microsoft and Amazon do.

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[MERGED] Azure block blob storage Feature

Post by martimartin12 » Dec 24, 2018 7:27 pm

data repositories feature for Azure block blob storage will be avaliable on Veeam 10 ? or also its supported with Veeam 9.5 ?
Veeam 10 have already released ? or when it will be ?

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by wishr » Dec 25, 2018 11:26 am

Hi Martin,

Welcome to Veeam Community Forums and thanks for posting.

Support for Azure Blob Storage as scale-out backup repository Capacity Tier will be released as a part of Veeam B&R 9.5 Update 4 that is planned to be GA soon. Please stay tuned for updates.

I've moved your post to an existing Azure Blob Storage discussion thread - please take a quick look.

Thanks

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by djecak » Jan 17, 2019 4:01 am

Maybe this is a stupid question, but how to restore a VM from Azure Blob Storage?

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by anthonyspiteri79 » Jan 17, 2019 4:23 am

Hey there Ermin.

Once you have data tiered into Azure Blob via the Capacity Tier extent you can perform all normal Veeam restore operations against that VM. We don't treat it any differently. If the data blocks resides in the Capacity Tier we will pull them down for the restore and in addition to that we have a feature that will look at the local backup files for similar blocks and if found, pull them from the local extents instead of the Capacity Tier.
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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by djecak » Jan 17, 2019 4:57 am

Thanks Anthony.
So, basically, I have to move it again from capacity to performance tier, in order to be able to restore it. Correct?

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by anthonyspiteri79 » Jan 17, 2019 5:00 am

Negative, that is done automatically. We track which blocks are where and pull them as required.
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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by djecak » Jan 17, 2019 5:45 am

Excellent!
So, what happens if I lose original Veeam backup server? Can I still restore that data from object storage by deploying new Veeam server and adding that same blob storage as backup repository?
I assume backup metadata should be sitting in that blob storage as well.
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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by anthonyspiteri79 » Jan 17, 2019 5:54 am

That's correct. We keep a copy of the metadata in the Object Storage for this very reason. The only thing to consider there is that you only have backup data that is outside of the operational restore window policy you set. ie. If you set it to 7 days you will only be able to resync metatdata locally from the Capacity Tier older than that.
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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by garypigott » Jan 17, 2019 3:02 pm 1 person likes this post

The only thing to consider there is that you only have backup data that is outside of the operational restore window policy you set. ie. If you set it to 7 days you will only be able to resync metatdata locally from the Capacity Tier older than that.
So that means this isn't a traditional off-site backup per-se. If you want to be able to recover your most recent backup after a site loss, you still need an off-site repository or a Cloud Connect copy. This is really just a method of parking old, low-value data to cheap cloud disk.

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by anthonyspiteri79 » Jan 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Exactly right Gary.

It's about moving data off to what is essentially cheaper storage while retaining full repo functionality...extending the SOBR to be truly scaleable. There is only 1 copy of the backup data at any one time.

Cloud Connect Backup is still the best way to satisfy the 3-2-1 rule of backup and get a copy offsite for archival purposes.
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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by Gostev » Jan 17, 2019 5:55 pm

garypigott wrote:
Jan 17, 2019 3:02 pm
So that means this isn't a traditional off-site backup per-se. If you want to be able to recover your most recent backup after a site loss, you still need an off-site repository or a Cloud Connect copy. This is really just a method of parking old, low-value data to cheap cloud disk.
NB: Well said.

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