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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by v.eremin » Feb 08, 2019 4:23 pm 1 person likes this post

Is it determined by "Restore points to keep on disk"? on the backup jobs?
Correct
So if we have 30 days in the "restore points to keep on disk" in the backup job, on day 31 day will one of the restore points be restored from Azure? Does Veeam send some message up to Azure to do this?
On the 31st day it will be removed from Azure Blob.

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by networkup » Feb 12, 2019 4:48 pm

If a scenario came and we lost the Veeam backup and replication server + the SQL db and had to start from scratch with no NAS / no local backups. We install veeam backup and replication on a new VM. All of a sudden the domain controller requires a restore, how do we link Veeam backup and replication back to Azure so we can pull the backups down from the Azure blob and use them for a restore?

Is there an article or advice for this scenario ?

Could not see anything from a quick google

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by v.eremin » Feb 12, 2019 5:56 pm 2 people like this post

You will need to:

- Install backup server
- Create a Object Storage Repository using the same information (credentials, folder, container)
- Create a Scale-Out Backup Repository
- Attach object storage repository as capacity tier

Backup server will re-scan object storage repository, find previous backups there and download dehydrated copies of them to local extent. After that, you will be able to execute restore process.

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by networkup » Feb 13, 2019 10:11 am

Thanks for the great instructions i will try to setup a lab to run through the scenario shortly.

if the backups have been encrypted on the capacity tier when setting up the scale-out repository is there any gotchas we need be aware of?

I assume all we would do when setting the scale-out Backup Repository up is put the password back into the tick box on the capacity tier which reads "Encrypt data uploaded to object storage" and it would be able to decrypt the backups and be able to use them for restores etc?

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by v.eremin » Feb 13, 2019 1:49 pm

Your understanding is correct, you will just need to input the same password that was used for encryption. Thanks!

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by crackocain » Feb 14, 2019 1:51 pm

Hi Vladimir

All of full and incremental backups are downloaded automatically? Can we see the downloading progress?

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by Gostev » Feb 14, 2019 9:38 pm

Hi Mehmet, what scenario are you talking about? Your question does not seem connected to the discussion. One thing for sure, nothing significant ever gets downloaded automatically without your action, because it costs money with Azure :D

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by crackocain » Feb 15, 2019 8:57 am

Lost Veeam Backup & Replication server scenario, networkup wrote.
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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by Gostev » Feb 15, 2019 1:52 pm

Then I am confirming - no backups will be downloaded automatically, only metadata. If you want to download actual backups, you will have to manually initiate the process. Normally it's not needed though, because you can restore directly from object storage. So, the only times when you would want to download, are scenarios where you need to perform multiple restores from the same backup. For example, provisioning multiple on-demand sandboxes for developers to play with.

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by mcz » Feb 18, 2019 8:17 am

Question to Anton & Vladimir: Would the mentioned scenario (downloading full + increments) be possible at the moment? AFAIK, at the moment (using U4) you can only "outsource" the oldest restore points (=capacity tier) but this does not belong to the full (vbk). So your latest full would have been on prem which got lost during desaster. Being able to upload all restore points would be part of the next update (can't wait to get it...)

Please correct me if I'm wrong - thanks.

BTW: Where is the "quote" button gone, I don't see it anymore...

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by v.eremin » Feb 18, 2019 4:41 pm

You're correct - only inactive or sealed part of backup chain gets offloaded to capacity tier. More information can be found here.

Ability to copy all (not just move oldest) backup files to capacity tier as soon as they are created is planned for future releases indeed.

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by Gostev » Feb 18, 2019 11:09 pm

mcz wrote:
Feb 18, 2019 8:17 am
BTW: Where is the "quote" button gone, I don't see it anymore...
It is purposely disabled to prevent people from quoting the immediate post :wink: you should still see this button on other posts. Thanks!

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by networkup » Feb 22, 2019 12:29 pm

Hi guys just after some quick confirmation of my understanding.

We have all of our jobs running reverse incremental backups all week with a full active backup every Saturday. Does this mean Fridays file will stay a VBK and become inactive allowing it to be in a state ready for Azure offload? And Saturdays VBK will be the start of the new active chain?

I have this diagram to explain

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https://imgur.com/a/aQILwm2

grey = inactive chain
green = active chain

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 - Azure Blob Storage

Post by Gostev » Feb 22, 2019 4:44 pm

Hi Adam, that is correct. Thanks!

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Re: 9.5 Update 4 and Microsoft Azure Blob Storage

Post by dimaslan » Feb 25, 2019 9:50 am

I just saw this mentioned elsewhere, I just wanted to bring it up here as well for verification and because it's relevant: "Capacity" Tier can only be Cold tier Blob and not Archival, correct? I saw this is because once something is moved to Archival tier Veeam will lose connection to it. This of course changes pricing by x5. Is a VLT on Azure the only solution for this for now then?
Even with 30 TB, the difference is significant.
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