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Veeam and Wasabi

Post by rkobiske » Jan 16, 2020 8:57 pm

I'm interested in using Veeam with Wasabi to move our long term backups off site.

What I'm concerned about is the 30 minimum storage policy. If i move my backups into wasabi, and i keep 30 days worth of restore points (one per day), when it hits day 31 and moves the oldest incremental into the full backup, am i going to be charged for the price of my full backup that was just deleted for 30 days? Then the next day when that incremental is rolled into the full, and i going to be charged for another 30 days of that full? Is that full backup really deleted and thus recreated, or am i thinking about this incorrectly?

I'd like to have 30 days of backups in the cloud, and then the last 10 days on site.

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Re: Veeam and Wasabi

Post by HannesK » Jan 17, 2020 8:36 am

Hello,
and welcome to the forums.
when it hits day 31 and moves the oldest incremental into the full backup
I'm not sure what you mean, and this probably answers your question indirectly... there are no merges in the cloud.
I'd like to have 30 days of backups in the cloud, and then the last 10 days on site.
yes, that's possible: reverse incremental and move after 10 days (keep in mind that this does not allow restores if you loose your on-prem environment)


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Re: Veeam and Wasabi

Post by DGrinev » Jan 17, 2020 9:01 am

Hi Rob, welcome to the community!

Also, review this article about available options with Wasabi, could be useful.

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Re: Veeam and Wasabi

Post by rkobiske » Jan 17, 2020 1:12 pm

HannesK wrote:
Jan 17, 2020 8:36 am

I'm not sure what you mean, and this probably answers your question indirectly... there are no merges in the cloud.
Ok, so this is good..then how does the cloud storage work?
HannesK wrote:
Jan 17, 2020 8:36 am
yes, that's possible: reverse incremental and move after 10 days (keep in mind that this does not allow restores if you loose your on-prem environment)
How should I set this up so I can loose my on prem and be able to restore?

Is there an article that better explains how I should be setting this up? Really I'm waiting for v10 to be able to have two repositories, but for now I was going to use a backup copy job.

Thanks again for the help!

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Re: Veeam and Wasabi

Post by Gostev » Jan 17, 2020 2:10 pm

Object storage has no file system, it's about storing, err... objects! Which in case of Veeam are individual blocks of an image-level backup. So, there are no backup files to maintain, merge, compact etc. as is the case with classic file systems.

You should just use a backup mode with periodic fulls. In this case, whatever is offloaded in the cloud will be self-sufficient.

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Re: Veeam and Wasabi

Post by rkobiske » Jan 17, 2020 2:16 pm

Ah ok. Now this makes sense.

Do I have to do periodic fulls? I've only been doing incremental backups with synthetic fulls.

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Re: Veeam and Wasabi

Post by jmmarton » Jan 17, 2020 3:33 pm 1 person likes this post

Synthetic fulls will work. It doesn't matter if you use active or synthetic fulls--as long as you "seal" the chain via some sort of full, then the old chain will get tiered to Capacity Tier.

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