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Licensing - Ransomware Protection
Folks,
We have an Enterprise Plus subscription and a Legacy per socket/instance license. We are running B&R v12.0.0.1420 P20230718.
If we upgrade to v12.1, are we licensed to use the Ransomware Protection feature? Or do we need to upgrade our license somehow?
(I have tried to find this information by googling, but to no avail.)
Kind regards,
PJ
We have an Enterprise Plus subscription and a Legacy per socket/instance license. We are running B&R v12.0.0.1420 P20230718.
If we upgrade to v12.1, are we licensed to use the Ransomware Protection feature? Or do we need to upgrade our license somehow?
(I have tried to find this information by googling, but to no avail.)
Kind regards,
PJ
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Re: Licensing - Ransomware Protection
We have the same license type and I can confirm that we can use the new malware protection features but with some limitations like yara scans, which are exclusive to higher licenses (advanced and premium suites).
You can find a comparison of the different license types and what they include in this PDF: https://www.veeam.com/veeam_data_platfo ... son_ds.pdf
You can find a comparison of the different license types and what they include in this PDF: https://www.veeam.com/veeam_data_platfo ... son_ds.pdf
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Thank you!
When comparing "advanced" with "premium", there doesn't seem to be any difference between them? Both of them have a green tick on everything.
When comparing "advanced" with "premium", there doesn't seem to be any difference between them? Both of them have a green tick on everything.
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As far as I know the difference between these two is the included products. According to the https://www.veeam.com/licensing-pricing ... oducts-vdp the VUL licensing comes in three variants: Foundation, Advanced and Premium. Foundation only has the VBR, Advanced has VBR and Veeam ONE and Premium has VBR, Veeam ONE, and the Recovery Orchestrator.
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Okay, I see. Thanks!
There seems to be an error in the listing concerning NAS Backups. We have Enterprise Plus, and we are doing NAS/File share (SMB) backups without any problems, but there is no tick, neither green nor black, in the listing. Or perhaps I have misunderstood something.
There seems to be an error in the listing concerning NAS Backups. We have Enterprise Plus, and we are doing NAS/File share (SMB) backups without any problems, but there is no tick, neither green nor black, in the listing. Or perhaps I have misunderstood something.
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Disregard my previous message. The reason for us being able to do NAS backups, as well as backing up physical machines, is of course that we have Instance licenses in addition to Socket licenses.
Moving on. In this document...
https://www.veeam.com/veeam_data_platfo ... son_ds.pdf
...in the initial Security section at "Secure Restore with YARA", there is a black tick for Enterprise Plus, meaning that it is partially supported. But I cannot find any info about what "partially supported" means in this case. Can anybody shed some light on this?
Moving on. In this document...
https://www.veeam.com/veeam_data_platfo ... son_ds.pdf
...in the initial Security section at "Secure Restore with YARA", there is a black tick for Enterprise Plus, meaning that it is partially supported. But I cannot find any info about what "partially supported" means in this case. Can anybody shed some light on this?
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Do you have VBR or VAS Socket license?
OLD NAMING | NEW NAMING
Veeam Backup & Replication (VBR) = Veeam Data Platform (VDP) Foundation Edition
Veeam Availability Suite (VAS) = Veeam Data Platform (VDP) Advanced Edition
Secure Restore is available in Veeam Data Platform (VDP) Foundation Edition, but YARA scan option requires VDP Advanced Edition.
OLD NAMING | NEW NAMING
Veeam Backup & Replication (VBR) = Veeam Data Platform (VDP) Foundation Edition
Veeam Availability Suite (VAS) = Veeam Data Platform (VDP) Advanced Edition
Secure Restore is available in Veeam Data Platform (VDP) Foundation Edition, but YARA scan option requires VDP Advanced Edition.
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Then we have VBR, because the only product we have is Backup & Replication (Enterprise Plus).
So, as I have suspected, if we convert our Legacy Sockets/Instances License to VUL, we pretty much end up in the VDP Foundation Edition?
It is with great concern that I am reading this:
"Combining a Standard legacy socket license with VUL will restrict certain platform capabilities like the Scale-out Backup Repository."
We are using SOBRs now with Enterprise Plus. So combining the license formats is not a good idea for us?
We have 23 socket licenses, and we are using all of them, and we have 26 instances for backing up physical machines and NAS, and using 24. If we want to move to VUL and have the same funcionality as today, plus being able to backup up Nutanix VMs and using YARA scans in restores, what do we need to do, and what does it mean price wise, give or take? I realize that the price tag is a question for a sales representative, but perhaps you can give us a hint?
So, as I have suspected, if we convert our Legacy Sockets/Instances License to VUL, we pretty much end up in the VDP Foundation Edition?
It is with great concern that I am reading this:
"Combining a Standard legacy socket license with VUL will restrict certain platform capabilities like the Scale-out Backup Repository."
We are using SOBRs now with Enterprise Plus. So combining the license formats is not a good idea for us?
We have 23 socket licenses, and we are using all of them, and we have 26 instances for backing up physical machines and NAS, and using 24. If we want to move to VUL and have the same funcionality as today, plus being able to backup up Nutanix VMs and using YARA scans in restores, what do we need to do, and what does it mean price wise, give or take? I realize that the price tag is a question for a sales representative, but perhaps you can give us a hint?
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You don't have a Standard Edition but an Enterprise Plus Edition, so this does not apply to you. You can combine your Sockets with VUL freely w/no feature loss.
No idea about a price, you will need to talk to your Veeam Sales rep. Besides, you will need to do a Socket license migration to VUL - and there might be short-term incentives around this. Like migrate now and get VDPA instead of VDPF, I'm pretty sure this was the incentive during one of the quarters in 2023. Not saying it is available now! Just that your Sales rep would know the best course of action at any point in time.
No idea about a price, you will need to talk to your Veeam Sales rep. Besides, you will need to do a Socket license migration to VUL - and there might be short-term incentives around this. Like migrate now and get VDPA instead of VDPF, I'm pretty sure this was the incentive during one of the quarters in 2023. Not saying it is available now! Just that your Sales rep would know the best course of action at any point in time.
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Thank you!
Kind regards,
PJ
Kind regards,
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Re: Licensing - Ransomware Protection
Curious, if you have the Enterprise Plus licensing level, why do you need “Advanced” for YARA scans? Doesn’t that just include VeeamOne? Do YARA scans leverage VeeamOne in some way?
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You're probably thinking about old packaging from the past. Unlike some other vendors we still allow existing customers to keep renewing those legacy perpetual licenses they already own despite they are no longer offered for sale, which certainly adds confusion.
However, in the current offerings editions like "Enterprise Plus" do not exist as licensing level for some years now.
Also that Veeam Availability Suite you're thinking which "just included Veeam ONE" does not exist.
With the current packaging features are distributed across editions are as follows:
- Foundation edition provides base backup & recovery (all essential features but no advanced functionality)
- Advanced edition adds Monitoring and Analytics (where YARA is a part of the Analytics)
- Premium edition adds Recovery Orchestration
I was on a call with Product Marketing just a few days ago where they were specifically thinking of some taglines for each edition considering their roadmap. In general you can expect Advanced getting more "advanced" features around cyber-resiliency with time, while Premium will remain reserved for "high-end enterprise" features.
However, in the current offerings editions like "Enterprise Plus" do not exist as licensing level for some years now.
Also that Veeam Availability Suite you're thinking which "just included Veeam ONE" does not exist.
With the current packaging features are distributed across editions are as follows:
- Foundation edition provides base backup & recovery (all essential features but no advanced functionality)
- Advanced edition adds Monitoring and Analytics (where YARA is a part of the Analytics)
- Premium edition adds Recovery Orchestration
I was on a call with Product Marketing just a few days ago where they were specifically thinking of some taglines for each edition considering their roadmap. In general you can expect Advanced getting more "advanced" features around cyber-resiliency with time, while Premium will remain reserved for "high-end enterprise" features.
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Re: Licensing - Ransomware Protection
Gostev - we are a service provider. In our licensing portal, our options for available products don't line up with the new packaging. The options are:
VBR Standard
VBR Enterprise (99% of our customers use this)
VBR Enterprise Plus
Veeam ONE
(then several other products irrelevant to this conversation).
Could you advise which of those we need to select to get YARA scans?
VBR Standard
VBR Enterprise (99% of our customers use this)
VBR Enterprise Plus
Veeam ONE
(then several other products irrelevant to this conversation).
Could you advise which of those we need to select to get YARA scans?
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Hi, Cory. Please ask your Veeam sales rep as frankly speaking I'm unaware of these special licensing packages they have for service providers or how they technically map to actual license files that VBR can "understand".
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Hi Cory
If you are talking about rental licenses, then YARA rules should be covered by Enterprise Plus.
This is the feature comparison guide from the Veeam ProPartner portal for rental licensing:
https://cdn.propartner.veeam.com/bin/ve ... arison.pdf
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If you are talking about rental licenses, then YARA rules should be covered by Enterprise Plus.
This is the feature comparison guide from the Veeam ProPartner portal for rental licensing:
https://cdn.propartner.veeam.com/bin/ve ... arison.pdf
Best,
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Thanks Fabian and Gostev, this was a big help.
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What is "rental licensing"? Are there two versions of Enterprise Plus, one "rental" and one something else?
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Rental license is available to members in our Veeam Cloud Service Provider (VCSP) partner program.
The rental license allows our partner to provide managed services to their customer.
https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/vcsp/ ... nsing.html
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The rental license allows our partner to provide managed services to their customer.
https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/vcsp/ ... nsing.html
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Okay, so we have "Enterprise Plus something else", then.
Some kind of Legacy edition, no doubt.
As far as I have understood, the YARA Scan feature is not available for us. We need a VUL Advanced or Premium license for that.
PJ
Some kind of Legacy edition, no doubt.
As far as I have understood, the YARA Scan feature is not available for us. We need a VUL Advanced or Premium license for that.
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@perjonsson1960 please check the Package value in your license file. If it says Suite or Essentials then you get this feature even though you have a legacy Socket-based licensing. Advanced Edition is the new name for the former Veeam Availability Suite, but it's effectively the same package.
And Essentials is the same package too, just limited by the number of sockets/workloads.
And Essentials is the same package too, just limited by the number of sockets/workloads.
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In the sockets license file it says:
Edition=Enterprise Plus
License type=Perpetual
Package=Backup
And in the instances file it says:
License type=Subscription
Package=Backup
We have some kind of hybrid license, so the two files cannot be merged. I tried and failed.
So, we are not licensed for the YARA Scan feature, then.
PJ
Edition=Enterprise Plus
License type=Perpetual
Package=Backup
And in the instances file it says:
License type=Subscription
Package=Backup
We have some kind of hybrid license, so the two files cannot be merged. I tried and failed.
So, we are not licensed for the YARA Scan feature, then.
PJ
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