HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:28 pm

Folks, we are looking at handling vCenter VM backup on the product level in the next major release, so that you don't have to jump through the hoops to achieve this. Appeared to be quite a task to implement this in a reliable manner, but I think devs nailed it.
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby ThomasMc » Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:38 pm

That's awesome news :)
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby dellock6 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:08 am

Great news Anton, waiting for it then :)

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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby ThomasMc » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:12 pm

Gostev wrote:Folks, we are looking at handling vCenter VM backup on the product level in the next major release, so that you don't have to jump through the hoops to achieve this. Appeared to be quite a task to implement this in a reliable manner, but I think devs nailed it.


Did this make it into 6.5?
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:58 pm

Since 6.5 is not a major release, then the answer is no ;)
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby pjbryant » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:24 pm

hello all, I'm looking into this one as well, but I am using a different "find the host the VC is on" method. that is only a few short lines. In addition I also temporarily disable DRS from moving the VC to a different host so that the job does not subsequently fail (it happened to me once quite early on in testing!)

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#declare the VC name (as appearing in vCentre display, not the NetBIOS name)
$VCVMName = "vCenter"

#connect to the cluster (sort your credentials how you like...)
$VC = Connect-VIServer $VCVMName -User <Username> -Password <Password>
#disable DRS moving of the VC so we connect correctly (this prevents DRS moving the VC guest to another host before the job runs
get-cluster | Set-Cluster -DrsAutomationLevel PartiallyAutomated -confirm:$false

#Find out on which host vCentre 4.1 is running
$VCGuest=get-vm $VCVMName
$ESXiHost = $VCGuest.vmhost.name


$ESXiHost now is the ESX host *currently* running your VC

to enable the DRS automation once the job has been started (and i recommend waiting a few minutes after the job is started)
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#wait 5 minutes for the Job to get going
Start-Sleep -s 300
#set drs automation back to full automated
get-cluster | Set-Cluster -drsautomationlevel FullyAutomated -confirm:$false
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby ThomasMc » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:16 pm

I never seen any point in using PowerCLI as the VeeamShell can get what we needed, also why not use the VMotion event to trigger an alarm and run your script? we spoke about that away at the start of this thread :wink:
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby pbohlken » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:44 pm

When is an update expected?

I also have the same issues with not able to backup vCenter (quiesce). I already installed the latest patch a few days ago that solves problems with snapshots not being removed.
For use is a solution with a script not a real solution.

Thanks!
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:36 am

Gostev wrote:Folks, we are looking at handling vCenter VM backup on the product level in the next major release, so that you don't have to jump through the hoops to achieve this. Appeared to be quite a task to implement this in a reliable manner, but I think devs nailed it.

The next major update that should address this behavior is scheduled for this year.
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby Unison » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:48 am

Cant wait for the next major release :) Hopefully this will be addressed. I imagine everyone with a VC on multiple hosts is suffering this problem - its especially painful for us running replication jobs over the WAN - every time your VC is vmotioned......we have to re transport the base image :( - unless we undertake this unsupported hacking of the database.

Its been an identified issue for years now - hopefully the time is right for a permanent solution to this from veeam. Veeam does do some very impressive and tricky things as you all know - so building a little bit of intelligence in that detects the change of a RefID due to a vMotion will be well within the capabilities of the Veeam Dev team :).

Fingers crossed
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[MERGED] VSSControl: Failed to freeze guest, wait timeout

Veeam Logoby ogodt » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:23 pm

Hi all,

i have a backup job that backs up all my vms ( 11 ) but i get the VSSControl error on my Vcenter i have read http://www.veeam.com/KB1051 but i really cant figure out what to do,
i would like to keep my backup job, because it backs up my entire cluster.

We use Veeam BR 6.5

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[MERGED] : Backing up vCenter Database Server Best Practice

Veeam Logoby ntrevett » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:40 am

Hi,
What is considered the "Best Practice" deployment of a virtual SQL server for a virtual vCenter server so to be able to back it up with Veeam's B&R?
Is it supported by Veeam and Microsoft if you backup a Mirror Target (SQL 2008) or an Always-on replica (SQL 2012)?
I've seen the KB recommending a backup via the host - surely this is more of a work-around!

Thanks in advance for your help
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:03 am

Hi, Nigel.

You have been merged to the existing discussion regarding vCenter VM backup, so, kindly take a look at the answers provided above.

For now one option to go is, indeed, to add a vCenter VM to backup/replication job through a standalone server. However, please be aware that the upcoming version of Veeam Backup and Replication will handle the process of vCenter VM backup more effectively.

Thanks.
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby Tim783 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:40 am

Gostev wrote:Folks, we are looking at handling vCenter VM backup on the product level in the next major release, so that you don't have to jump through the hoops to achieve this. Appeared to be quite a task to implement this in a reliable manner, but I think devs nailed it.


Hi Gostev,

Did this end up being fixed in v7? I am running v7 and am still unable to backup one of our SQL servers that hosts the vcenter database.

Have to add at the host level to get a successful backup.

Thanks
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Re: HOWTO: Backing up vCenter host issues

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:43 am

Yes, this issue has been addressed in v7. If you still experience issues with backing up vCenter Server through the vCenter Server, please contact our technical team for logs review. Thank you!
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