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Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by mhussain » Aug 02, 2018 1:48 am

Please add Feature Or release a new version of Veeam Backup and replication so I can take a take a backup of the empty folder.

The empty directories are excluded when running a file-to-tape job. I don't know if this is a bug or by design or if I am missing an option, but we would really like to have a way to have them included to be able to guarantee a 100% identical copy of the directory structure to our users.


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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by Mike Resseler » Aug 02, 2018 4:56 am

Hi MHussain,

First: Welcome to the forums!
Before I pass this message to the responsible PM, can you tell me what exactly is happening. You have selected a root directory containing X amount of folders and Y amount of those folders (and subfolders) have files in it... There are some folders who are empty and those are not seen on the tape? Is that correct?

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by Dima P. » Aug 03, 2018 4:28 pm

Hello mhussain.
The empty directories are excluded when running a file-to-tape job.
That's true - file to tape jobs operate on the file level, so if the folder is empty - it's going to be skipped from processing. I noted a feature requested based on your post, so thanks for sharing!

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by mhussain » Aug 09, 2018 12:20 am

Essentially we have a directory structure containing evidence, which has lots of subdirectories in, some with files and some without. When we try to do a file to tape backup job, Veeam seems only to be backing up the directories where files are present and excluding those empty directories. As this directory structure is evidence is important to back up everything including the empty directories.

That's why I have requested for the feature so we can backup of the empty folders when we perform file-to-tape backup

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by blim » Dec 05, 2019 9:23 pm 1 person likes this post

I would like file-to-tape jobs to backup empty folders. A checkbox or something would be nice.

Thanks!

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by Dima P. » Dec 07, 2019 8:38 pm

Hello blim,

Can you please clarify your use case? Thank you in advance!

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by blim » Jan 09, 2020 4:14 pm

I would like to use file-to-tape jobs to backup certain drives that are >4TB in size (about 400TB of data altogether). These drives could have a folder structure created by an application or a user. If a full restore is required and empty folders aren't restored it could mean applications can't find directories that should be there or users have to take time to rebuilt their directory structure.

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by Dima P. » Jan 13, 2020 4:35 pm

Hello blim,

Thanks for the details, consider your vote being added to this feature request!

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by Samba222 » Jan 20, 2020 8:42 am

Vote +1

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by rjay1600 » Jan 23, 2020 6:04 am 1 person likes this post

I have had the same issue, a standard "directory structure" that may or may not have files in some directories. Veeam have verified that 9.5x File to Tape only backs up files.
We have a requirement to do a "test restore" from tapes sent offfsite. This VM(and it's data) is several TB in size so a "test restore" from a tape backup job requires restoring the whole VM to a disk repository, unfortunately this is the only way to maintain the integrity of the directory structure.

Two things would be nice.

1. - for File to Tape, backup ALL the data, including all directories ( is a directory not a file ? )
2. - have Backup to Tape write some sort of "metadata" to tape about the repository structure being copied to tape, to ( somehow ) allow single files ( or alternatively, single VMs ) to be extracted from the tape without the need to restore the whole repository

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Re: Backup of Empty Folder - Case 03119826

Post by Dima P. » Jan 23, 2020 6:10 pm

Hello Ray,

Thank you for sharing, I'll discuss your feedback with the team!

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