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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby alynch » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:46 pm

For now I am using backup exec to work around this. Might consider dropping Veeam License if this does not get sorted out soon.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby sbbots » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:45 pm

Personally, I gave up on Veeam ever implementing a "latest VBK to tape" option for those of us who bought the Standard version. But hey, you get to learn some basic PowerShell scripting for free, so we got that going for us.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:43 am

Since it's backup to tape job that operates with backup files, and not with general ones like files to tape job does, "the latest .vbk" option is planned for backup to tape jobs, indeed. Thanks.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby halnasser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:20 am

dear All;
Is there any way to create a backup to tape job to backup the last backup using Incremental Backup veeam jobs?
the following configuration were used: no tape protection at all & for the media set, all options were used as well.
my requirements are:
backing up the last vbk to tape every night, not the previous ones, do not care about tape protection at all, and have a full backup every day


I will quote from Mr. joergr
No luck so far. The first backup will always backup everything (config as "backups to tape"). if i do a backup afterwards after doing a reversed increment again it will fail asking for another tape (if set to create a new media set for every session) or it will just append to tape (if set to use current media set).



Any Advice ????


thanks a lot
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby alynch » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:06 pm 1 person likes this post

This thread was created Aug 16, 2013!

Two years and still nothing...

''It just works'' ya right
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:18 am

Hello Haddel,
You can create backup job with Reverse Incremental backup method and use it as source for backup to tape job. Both jobs run daily. Choose to copy only the last chain when creating the tape job if don`t want previous backups to be copied.
As a result you will have 1 Full+preset number of increments(.vrb) on disk repository and full backup everyday on tapes.

alynch wrote:This thread was created Aug 16, 2013!
Two years and still nothing...

Actually, there was some tape improvements made in v8 as a result of this feedback. For example, when creating Backup to Tape job, v8 will now ask you if you want to copy all - or only the latest full backup chain to tape. And for many other scenarios, multiple workarounds were suggested in the topic since 2013. Could you please describe your use case? Thanks!
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby a32guy » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:14 pm

Shestakov wrote:Hello Haddel,
You can create backup job with Reverse Incremental backup method and use it as source for backup to tape job. Both jobs run daily. Choose to copy only the last chain when creating the tape job if don`t want previous backups to be copied.
As a result you will have 1 Full+preset number of increments(.vrb) on disk repository and full backup everyday on tapes.

So if I were to schedule this tape job to run monthly, every month it would push 1 single (latest) vbk to tape? Is that correct?
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:27 pm

For the case described above, correct.
Thanks!
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby HolgerE » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:38 am 1 person likes this post

I would like to add, that "push 1 single (latest) vbk to tape" only works if you never ever do an active full in the mean time (concerning the Reverse Incremental backup method described above)!
As soon as you run an active full, you've got the last backup from the day before active full (which is a vbk) and you've got your most current backup file (which is also a vbk). Both of the vbk have not been pushed to tape yet, so the next "Copy 2 Tape" job will copy both vbk.
The option "copy only the latest full backup chain to tape" is only available for the first run of the "Copy 2 Tape" job.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:46 am

Thanks for the feedback, Holger!
We will definitely take it into account.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby garenk » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:42 pm

Been waiting for this feature since tape support was introduced in Veeam. Please make it happen.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby DRRP » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:06 am

I'd just like to echo the desire for this functionality. We were expecting it to behave as Holger did, to have it copy only the latest vbk to tape, otherwise we'll end up running out of tapes to use (too many vbks from active full backups being copied over).
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby squirrel » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:20 pm

I'd just like to also echo the desire for this functionality. I expected it to behave as Holger did as well. We need it to copy only the latest vbk to tape, otherwise it uses too many tapes.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:31 am

Thank you for the feedback. We heard that request and as a first step in this area added option in version 8 to copy only the latest chain. Chances are, functionality to copy only the latest vbk will be added in one of the next product releases. Thanks.
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Re: Backup to Tape only last backup with reversed incrementa

Veeam Logoby mike.r » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:04 am

Yes, in Veeam 8 there is an option to "copy the latest chain".
But !! You only get one chance to set the option, when you add a new backup job to the list of jobs in tape backup.
Once you have set the option, you will never see it again. No check box , no mark, nothing.
And !! This option is only active for the first tape backup in the schedule. the next backup will copy all chains (created after the last tape backup) again.
Seems this option was implemented very quick and very dirty.
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