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Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:35 am

Hello everybody,
first of all, my main language is german and my english is not that good. :roll:

Iam very new with Veeam Backup an having a problem with setting up my Tape Job.

My Goal is to have a full Backup from the latest Backup Chain from all my VMs on Tape, every Day from Monday to Friday.

At the Moment my Tapejob writes on the first day everything on tape (Processed: 1,9 TB), but the second day is seems that only the incrementals will be backuped (Processed: 91,4 GB), but i want to backup everyday everything i need for a full restore on one tape. I hope my description is clear enough. I already try different Settings but with no Success.

Here are my current Backup Settings:

Backup Jobs:
Diskjob1: 8 VMs to Backup Repository1 (Retention: Keep 21 Restore Points on Disk, Backup Mode: Incremetal + Active full Backup "Weekly on Saturday") (Schedule: 20:00 Everyday)
Diskjob2: 15 VMs to Backup Repository2 (Retention: Keep 21 Restore Points on Disk, Backup Mode: Incremetal + Active full Backup "Weekly on Saturday") (Shedule: Runs after Diskjob1)

Tape Job:
Tapejob:
Backupfiles: Backup Repository1 + Backup Repository2
Full Backup: Mediapool "Daily" (Full Backup Schedule: Weekly on MO, DI, MI, DO, FR)
Incremental Backup: Mediapool "Daily"
Options: Eject media upon completion, Advanced: Process latest full Backup chain only
Schedule: Daily 23:45 on these Days (MO, DI, MI, DO, FR)


Mediapool "Daily":
Tapes: 5 (Libary LTO-6 HH)
Media Set: Create new media set for every backup session
Retention: Do not protect data
Options: Use Encryption



So, what iam doing wrong?
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby PTide » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:01 pm

Hi and welcome to the community!

My Goal is to have a full Backup from the latest Backup Chain from all my VMs on Tape, every Day from Monday to Friday.
So you want to place fulls to tape only, no increments at all, is that correct? If so then you need to switch to forever-forward incremental mode and disable incremental backups processing in you Tape job settings In order to do that you need to contact technical support team so they can provide you with a hotfix as there is a bug in the current version.

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:18 pm

I try to uncheck "Incremental Backup" in Tapejob, the first time was fine but the second day after says "No new files to backup"
Its seems like the "Full Backup" Schedule in Tapejob is ignored!?

Is this whats needs to hotfix?

My backup to disk is "Incremetal + Active full Backup "Weekly on Saturday"

On tape i want allways all i need to have a fullbackup:

(for exaple how i imagine:)
Tapejob MO: Full SA + Incremental MO
Tapejob TU: Full SA + Incremental MO + TU
Tapejob WE: Full SA + Incremental MO + TU + WE
...



So i need a Hotfix?
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby PTide » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:58 pm

Is this whats needs to hotfix?
Correct.

So i need a Hotfix?
Actually you can switch your job to forever forward incremental mode and configure everyday virtual full. In this case your tape job will compose a full backup on a daily basis i.e. you will have the following schema:

Tapejob MO: Full MO
Tapejob TU: Full TU
Tapejob WE: Full WE
...

Another option is to switch your backup job to reverse incremental - that will make your tape job to copy the latest version full to tape every day.
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:49 am

Actually you can switch your job to forever forward incremental mode and configure everyday virtual full. In this case your tape job will compose a full backup on a daily basis i.e. you will have the following schema:

Tapejob MO: Full MO
Tapejob TU: Full TU
Tapejob WE: Full WE


So i need to uncheck the "Active Fullbackup every Saturday" in my Diskjob to get the everday Fullbackup in my Tapejob to work?
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby PTide » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:59 am

So i need to uncheck the "Active Fullbackup every Saturday" in my Diskjob to get the everday Fullbackup in my Tapejob to work?
Correct.
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:39 am

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby PTide » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:30 am

Hi,

So your DiskJob1 creates an incremental backup on Repository1at 20:00 everyday, your DiskJob2 runs right after DiskJob1 and creates incremental backup on Backup Repository2, your TapeJob starts at 23:45 daily and is supposed to create only full backups on tape on weekdays, is that correct? Are you positive that new backup files were present on both repositories right before the Tape Job started? Also have you disabled "Archive incremental backups to tape"?

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:39 pm

Yes, thats correct!

The Backup to Disk Jobs are finished and iam disabled incremental Backups to Tape.

Here another Screenshot:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=6 ... hoto%2cJPG


I installed the latest Update but same Problems, sometimes the Tape-Job runs, sometimes not...
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby PTide » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:08 pm

Please make sure that you have "Process latest full Backup chain only" checkbox disabled and if that does not help please open a case and post your case ID here.

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:26 am

Thanks for you reply.

"Process latest full Backup chain only" was enabled! :(
Its disabled now, i will see whats happening and i will give feedback next week!
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:35 am

I disabled "Process latest full Backup chain only" and the first 4 Backups seems good, but now its the same as before... 4xGood, 1xNothing to Backup, 2xGood, 1xNothing to Backup, 1xGood... :cry:
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby PTide » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:02 pm

Such behaviour looks like one of already known bugs - please contact support team and post your case ID here.

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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby aaron@ARB » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:39 am 2 people like this post

And for what its worth, your English is perfectly understandable, well done :) I know some native English speakers who I can understand less than you :)
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Re: Daily full backup to Tape Job Problem

Veeam Logoby Zdministrator » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:49 pm

Thank you.

As suggested i open an Support Case:

Case ID 01779070
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