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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby haslund » Fri May 15, 2015 7:28 pm 1 person likes this post

Would be very nice to see option of setting up drive cleaning from inside VBR.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Sat May 16, 2015 2:47 pm

Hi, Rasmus,

Assuming we had that functionality, what in particular would you like to see there?

Thanks.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby JvZanten » Mon May 18, 2015 6:22 am

Hi all,

VB&R recognizes the need to clean the drive, so it would be obvious that it could automatically clean it (as an option) when a cleaning tape is available (e.g. when the cleaning tape has a designated slot or a specific label)
a manual cleaning command so the backup operator doesn't need to login to the library's web interface.

grtx Johan
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Erhardt » Tue May 19, 2015 6:07 pm

v.Eremin wrote:Hi, Rasmus,

Assuming we had that functionality, what in particular would you like to see there?

Thanks.



The ability to schedule drive cleaning (eg once a month) or operate with powershell.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Tue May 26, 2015 2:36 pm

Thanks guys. By the way, I’ve seen somewhere the ability to trigger auto cleaning by tape drive alert. Do you find it useful or scheduled cleaning is enough?
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby StephanF » Wed May 27, 2015 1:21 pm

In my opinion triggering auto cleaning by tape drive alert is much more important than a fixed schedule. So this function would be highly appreciated here.
LTO tape drives should only be cleaned when the drive says so (= sets the appropriate TapeAlert flag).
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Luscher » Thu May 28, 2015 9:05 am

Is this Feature now included in Veeam8? Or is there a Workaround to initiate a clean Job from Veeam?
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Thu May 28, 2015 2:40 pm

StephanF,
triggering auto cleaning by tape drive alert is much more important than a fixed schedule

Agree! Thanks for the heads up.

Matthias,
Is this Feature now included in Veeam8? Or is there a Workaround to initiate a clean Job from Veeam?

No. Such operation is not supported in the existing versions of the product.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby mike.r » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:16 am

The demand for an automated tape cleaning is higly expected for years now.
The solution could be very easy:
- recognize a cleaning tape in a designated slot
- put it into a tape, when cleaning is required
- put it back into the slot, when cleaning is done
- continuing the tape backup

So...where is the problem to implement such a feature ?
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:27 pm

No available R&D resources for this version. Though, request remains valid for the next major version.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby mike.r » Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:51 am

Hm..
at least honest :-)
But unfortunately not very helpfull.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:46 am

Mike,

Thanks. By the way, I bet this could be done via scripting, since we’ve added the pre/post scripts to the tape jobs. A PowerShell script which asks tape device state (before or after tape job starts) and if it returns 'required cleaning' flag trigger the cleaning procedure.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby mike.r » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:33 pm

Good idea, but it is a little bit more complex than that.
For example:
- start a backup to tape job
- backup starts with tape no. 1
- during the backup job the changer sets the flag "cleaning required"
- backup job with tape1 will continue
- but!!! the backup job will not enter tape2 before the cleaning is done
- only chance to get out of the job is to cancel it manually
This is a situation I can not handle with the "before or after Tape job starts" function.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:49 pm

Agree. Now this feature request looks like this we need to track the state of the drive and, I assume, if it becomes ‘dirty’ switch to another available drive or if there are no available drives clean the existing one drive and then proceed writing.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby mike.r » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:11 pm

Sounds good.
But the drive needs to be cleaned anyway, regardless another drive is available or not.

By the way: is switching to another (available) drive a feature that would work now ?
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