Drive Cleaning?

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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby monstermania » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:17 am

Hi fellow suffers,
we are waiting for that feature a long, long time.
The last times i've updated ASAP to new versions of B&R. And everytime we had some problems after the update. :-(
So, before i update to B&R 9.5 i wait a little bit longer.
Can someone confirm that cleaning support now working as expected?

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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:38 am

Hi Dirk!
Tape cleaning works fine, but you can just wait for a first update which is going to be released in 4-8 weeks - this will have all teething issues addressed.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby hukay » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:15 pm

Dima P. wrote:hukay,

Load it to the driver. Such tape should be recognized as cleaning during inventory operation.


I have tried running inventory multiple times, and it comes back with "Unrecognized". Not sure if it has anything to do with the tape or program. Might wait till next update and see how it stacks up.

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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:13 pm

hukay,

That’s expected - cleaning media is stored in Unrecognized system media pool. Once cleaning is requested tape drive will take it from there.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby hukay » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:33 pm

Dima,

Okay, just wanted to make sure that thats how it supposed to show. Since there is no way of telling from User POV.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby hukay » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:20 pm

Apologize for double post, but forgot to include, how would we tell if auto clean ran fine or there was an issue with it?
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby lyapkost » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:50 am

Hi. In case of any issues during cleaning (for example, no cleaning tapes found in the library or tape drive sends alert 'cleaning required' just after cleaning process) the job finishes with warning.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby mike.r » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:51 am

Hi,
after using b&r 9.5 for a while, I have this situation:
Tape job used 8 tapes, after writing to tape 8 (last tape), the drive liked to be cleaned.
B&R tape job recognized that, sent a tape alert to logfile and ended the job with a warning.

Result:
Tape job ended succsessfully
Drive still likes to be cleaned

This is kind of OK, but it would have been better, if b&R had put in the cleaning tape (after writing to tape8) and continue / end the job after cleaning.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:53 pm

mike.r,

When enabled, cleaning check is performed at the beginning of every tape job. If cleaning tape is missing or locked, tape job will proceed. However, VBR logs a cleaning request and cleans the drive at the beginning of any tape job targeting this drive.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby mike.r » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:08 am

Hi Dima P.,
I see !
Unfortunately it is difficult to get that situation again and double-check it.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby BrendaS » Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:15 pm

What currently happens with a standalone tape drive when in the middle of a backup, the drive requests a cleaning.

Will the backup abort if I insert a cleaning tape when it requests the next tape ? Ideally, I'd like it to do a clean and then have it complain not a valid tape, insert a data tape and then continue on it's merry way when I insert the next tape in the sequence, but I'm not game to try it considering I'm ten tapes into a backup (yeah, I know I need a library, but we work with what we've got).

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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:18 am

Brenda,

If a job is running it is not interrupted by cleaning. Instead, cleaning should be performed at the beginning of next job run automatically.
What currently happens with a standalone tape drive

Unfortunately standalone drives are not supported. Automated drive cleaning requires cleaning media loaded in the tape library.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby radion » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:06 pm

Will we see the cleaning task inside a tape job protocol or will it log as a separate task e.g. in the "System" category under history?

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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:40 pm 1 person likes this post

radion,

It should be a part of regular backup to tape/file to tape job session.
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Re: Drive Cleaning?

Veeam Logoby DDIT » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:30 am

Hi,

I have been using the automated drive cleaning with Veeam 9.5 for a few weeks. Whilst it works well and save me the manual administration of cleaning the drive, it still marks the current tape job as 'warning'.

I understand this happens because the check for cleaning is done at the start of each job. Is there a reason why the cleaning check and actual cleaning cannot be done at the end of the job that reports it? And therefore finish as 'successful'.

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