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Duplicate tape

Post by rodrigo.catarino » Apr 12, 2017 10:15 am

Hi all,

Is there a way to duplicate a tape used in veeam backups?
We are currently using Veeam 9.5 and the library is a IBM TS3200 with two drives.
Each drive is being used in two diferent systems, backups of Windows machines and backups of AS400 machines.

Thanks in advance.

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Rodrigo Catarino

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Shestakov » Apr 12, 2017 11:14 am

Hi Rodrigo,
Do you mean copying all data from one tape to another or writing same data from disks on 2 tapes?
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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by rodrigo.catarino » Apr 12, 2017 11:30 am

Hi Shestakov,

Lets say that I have a tape with backup from last month and I need to duplicate the information from that tape to another tape for archiving purposes.

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Rodrigo Catarino

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Shestakov » Apr 12, 2017 12:22 pm

Tape to Tape operations are not supported. You may restore the information on disk and write it on another tape.
Is that one time operation or you do it often?
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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by rodrigo.catarino » Apr 12, 2017 2:56 pm

Hi Shestakov,

This would be a one time operation maybe once a year.

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Rodrigo

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Shestakov » Apr 13, 2017 11:58 am

Thank you for the reply, Rodrigo!
As was mentioned, the only way is to restore and write data on another tape.

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Didi7 » Apr 27, 2017 10:10 pm 2 people like this post

Hello Shestakov,

tape duplication is a standard feature in traditional backup products for archiving puposes, sometimes used weekly, monthly or yearly, so consider it being widely used.

I know it's not supported in VBR, but it's an Enterprise feature and I am sure VBR wants to be considered an Enterprise products, as mentioned in Gartner's quadrant.

Consider it being a feature request.

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Shestakov » Apr 28, 2017 11:17 am 2 people like this post

Hello Didi7,
The request is taken into account. Thank you!

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by ha_saqib » Jul 03, 2018 5:28 am

Please add my request too for this feature.

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by lalaith75 » Jan 22, 2019 11:48 am

Please add my request, too.

Do you know if there are any news about this since July?

Thank you!

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by wishr » Jan 22, 2019 12:02 pm

Hi Lalaith75,

Thank you for the vote! It's noted.

Unfortunately, no new information we could share at this moment, however, we pay close attention to this FR. Please, stay tuned for updates.

Thanks

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Giacomo_N » Jan 23, 2019 9:06 am

Hi Wishr, what do you mean with FR? Update 4 or next?

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by wishr » Jan 23, 2019 9:20 am

Hi Giacomo,

Saying "FR" I meant Feature Request. Hope you understand we cannot comment on any future release plans/roadmaps/feature ETAs.

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Giacomo_N » Jan 23, 2019 9:34 am

Hi Wishr,

ok, sorry, now I've understand and I've just read the U4 release notes.

Have a good day!

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by wishr » Jan 23, 2019 9:46 am

No worries, have a good day as well, Giacomo!

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Giacomo_N » Jan 23, 2019 10:06 am 1 person likes this post

Wishr, Vicenza it's the city name :)

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Dima P. » Jan 23, 2019 11:04 am

Hi folks,

Mind me to chime in. Instead of sharing + 1 please let us know how you would like to use this feature, as it helps the most.

Are you looking for the ability to copy old generation tapes to the new generation (basically migrate the tape media from one to another)? Or you see this feature as ability to write the second copy of tape media during the regular backup to tape/file to tape job run (to keep the identical data with the same retention but on separate media)? Thank you in advance!

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by rm76 » Jan 30, 2019 3:41 am

My vote for tape duplication, as well!
It would be great if tape dup job will accept "number of pairs of drives to use" as a parameter.

Also, "create extra tape sets" parameter will be a great improvement for any general tape job, for example "create extra tape sets: 1" will create 2 media sets with same content during "backup to tape job", etc.

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by 18436572 » Jan 31, 2019 8:51 pm

FYI We are considering a Quantum Scalar device, so I would add my voice to this FR. Tapes are a great way to build an "air gap" as well as a different media to store data (you know, the 3-2-1 concept).

Also we would use this to build an identical media library offsite. Our goal is to have onsite and offsite with the same datasets, that's very difficult to achieve :roll:

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Samba222 » Feb 01, 2019 2:16 pm

Vote for tape duplication, +1 for migration Jobs (LTO5 -> LTO7) and +1 for simple duplication Tape to Tape Job

Thx!

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by basic39 » Aug 08, 2019 12:23 pm

+1 for copy old generation tapes to the new generation (basically migrate the tape media from one to another). By large amount of data it's impossible to use this workaround(restore the old tape to disk and write the data to a new tape). Some other Backup solutions(for example EMC Networker) support this feature.

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Re: Duplicate tape

Post by Dima P. » Aug 09, 2019 5:46 pm

Hello folks,

Thank you for sharing your feedback. I've added your votes to this feature request. Cheers!

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