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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by mcx » Nov 21, 2015 8:16 am

Thank you for your attention Dmitry!

Be sure to announce it with big red fonts when it's available as I will switch my almost 30 sockets to your solution when it is available...!

(while we're at it... be sure to include encryption on those verified file->tape with delete jobs)

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by Dima P. » Nov 22, 2015 5:36 pm

Deal! Thanks Andreas.

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by rreed » Nov 24, 2015 2:41 pm

+1 to this feature request please. It would be fantastic to have a "flush to tape" feature. We would use this on a regular basis when we're retiring VM's; setup a one-time backup job that backs it up to tape then cleans up after itself. Right now it's a time and resource consuming process for us as well. Having a one-time backup to tape that completes w/ only data on tape would save us a bunch of time and storage.

And very respectfully, off-loading feature requests to administrators to hand build on their own will not win you any potential business or cool points. We're all here and thrilled that we can give - and Veeam listens to - our input as paying customers, but telling us to go do it ourselves could potentially have people taking a second look at competitors, even when some of us like myself are died in the wool Veeam fans. Let's all be helpful, guys. :wink: And many thanks Dima for throwing our request hats in the ring!
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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by v.Eremin » Nov 24, 2015 2:50 pm

If it's more about one time backup, haven't you thought about using combination of VeeamZIP and files to tape job? In the setting of VeeamZIP activity you can enable automatic file deletion (Delete this backup automatically -> Tomorrow Night).

Even being a workaround that still should give you what you're after.

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by mcx » Dec 10, 2015 5:18 pm

Although I appreciate the "traction" to have other people post similar problems... plus other Engineers provide other workarounds... the feature request remains AS IS...

"Archive this file or folder of files, verify (CRC at least) they are on destination correctly, DELETE (with or without folder structure)".

Thanks :)


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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by ccatlett1984 » Dec 10, 2015 5:45 pm

I'll add my vote for this feature.
Would be nice not to have to custom script with all kinds of error handling.

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by mcx » Mar 30, 2016 9:56 am

I do hope this would be a v10 feature (pretty please with sugar on it)

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by v.Eremin » Mar 30, 2016 4:34 pm

Truth be told we're a little bit reluctant to implement features contradicting with our backup redundancy paradigm (3-2-1 rule). Anyway, thank you for the feedback; much appreciated.

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by mcx » Apr 01, 2016 3:57 pm

Kurt Cobain wrote:Truth be told we're a little bit reluctant to implement features contradicting with our backup redundancy paradigm (3-2-1 rule). Anyway, thank you for the feedback; much appreciated.
Well.. there will always be files like that (logs, mailboxes, static exports/data) that will need to be backed up... even on a virtual world... so, 3-2-1 or just 1-1... one needs to "offload" something "someplace"... no matter what. Say I'm a video editor and I produce some hours of video each week... I can't possibly keep all that on disk "forever"... So I can choose BlueRay Disks, or tapes... but not disks...

Anyhow, not to over-complicate things... it's a real need. I don't like the fact that I (and others) have it... but we do :)

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by mcx » Jul 18, 2017 7:38 am

2 versions later. One PRICEY Server Agent later... still nothing like the (*hated*) old-school BE... Choose a folder, set filters, get the files, verify backup is done, delete files that were backed up.

Please oh please... think of people needing to archive file exports from those Enterprise applications that only export daily files as backup/archive!!!!

TY!

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by aevans@ricoh.com.au » Aug 30, 2017 3:55 am

+1 to this feature request please.
We have just migrated a customer from BE to Veeam and while they like the product they require archive to tape and then delete functionality (for very specific datasets)

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Re: Feature Request: ARCHIVE files to tape - delete after ba

Post by aceit » Aug 30, 2017 7:08 pm

Kind of agree with all the posts here requiring the feature.
For file based stuff delete after backup has been in backup softwares since the dawn of times.

While pre/post hooks are useful for other integrations (ie. signal external system etc.), my opinion is that they can't used here reliably (not really their use case) and you CANNOT leave this burden to customers reasonably (many things can go wrong, transactionally and the requirements for data integrity like delete after verification etc....), and it is almost "wrong" to suggest it... this kind of things must be handled by the backup software because has the visibility of the overall process and QA tested edge cases for all of us.

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