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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by cffit » Feb 18, 2014 4:27 pm

I am guessing that the file backup issues were not addressed in the R3 patch at all, or even partially? Just thought I would ask.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by johndoe10110 » Feb 18, 2014 4:51 pm 2 people like this post

cffit wrote:I am guessing that the file backup issues were not addressed in the R3 patch at all, or even partially? Just thought I would ask.
Why would they? They said *there's a great chance* for next release, not patch/hotfix, which has been stated a couple times now. Who knows when the next actual release will be. I'm hoping for sometime this year, like most, but I guess we'll never know until it comes out ;). It's nice to see them putting out some consistent patches+hot fixes at least.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by v.eremin » Feb 19, 2014 8:14 am 1 person likes this post

Yep, we didn't plan to address this issue in the recent patch due to the amount of required changes. Chances are, this will be included in the next release.

As to the ETA, the previous weekly forum digest has had this information:
Gostev wrote:Very excited, and we at Veeam R&D are looking forward to putting the goods into your hands this summer.
Thanks.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by mschobben » Feb 27, 2014 9:07 am

Just did a test file2tape v7r2 patch 3 and still its unusable slow!

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by v.eremin » Feb 27, 2014 9:44 am 1 person likes this post

Hi, Micha, as mentioned above, we are unable to address this issue with the patch release due to amount of changes required. However, the next product release scheduled for this summer should improve file to tape job performance significantly. Thanks.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by FXE » Apr 07, 2014 9:15 am

Hello,

The patch 3 doesn't correct this issue. When you say "there is a good chance that we will address this in the next release", should I understand you address this in a major release like "R3" and not in a patch ?

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by foggy » Apr 07, 2014 9:16 am

As it is stated above, the next major Veeam B&R release (scheduled for this summer) is likely to introduce improvements in this area.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by FXE » Apr 07, 2014 1:15 pm

OK thanks. Sorry, I've replied to a post on page 3, I've not seen that there is a page 4...

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by johndoe10110 » Apr 07, 2014 1:20 pm

FXE wrote:OK thanks. Sorry, I've replied to a post on page 3, I've not seen that there is a page 4...
It's on Page 3 too :wink:
There is good chance that we will address this in the next release (but not in patch or hotfix, as the changes required are too big). We have already built a prototype that increases the speed of backing up large amount of small files by at least an order of magnitude.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by FXE » Apr 07, 2014 1:58 pm

I will put my glasses on next time !

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by sdelacruz » Jul 04, 2014 5:13 pm

Any fixes on the latest Patch 4 for the issue of slow backup of files to tape using veeam?
I am backing up 500 GB of veeam backup files using the File to Tape backup on veeam. It's taking almost 20 hours to backup this.
I still need to backup more than 2 TB of veeam backups to tape but at this rate I cannot afford to use this tool to move my veeam backup files to tape. I was very happy to move out of BE but I guess I need to go back to it. I also upgraded my tape library to a new Dell Powervault 124T SAS connected but this did not help either.
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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by johndoe10110 » Jul 04, 2014 5:21 pm

sdelacruz wrote:Any fixes on the latest Patch 4 for the issue of slow backup of files to tape using veeam?
It's been mentioned several times, even two posts above yours, this won't be addressed in ANY patch. There's a good chance some changes will be implemented in v8,which is due later this year.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by Gostev » Jul 05, 2014 7:00 pm

sdelacruz wrote:I am backing up 500 GB of veeam backup files using the File to Tape backup on veeam. It's taking almost 20 hours to backup this.
This is most likely some configuration or environmental problem, so please open a support case to troubleshoot this. Large files should be backed up as fast as with BE, and 20 hours for 500GB is definitely unexpected. This topic is talking about a performance issue when backing up thousands of small files to tape... backing up a handful of large Veeam backup files to tape was never an issue.

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by Gostev » Jul 05, 2014 7:05 pm 1 person likes this post

As to the main issue discussed in this topic, right now I can confirm that this has been addressed in v8. Big thanks to John Doe for relentlessly covering our backs in this topic in the mean time ;)

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Re: Files to tape is painfully slow

Post by jbaxter5256 » Aug 14, 2014 2:37 am

Definitely no performance improvement for file to tape in V7 SP4. It is essentially unusable in backing up large numbers of small files. When is V8 going to be released with an appropriate performance profile for file to tape backups for VEEAM?

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