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GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby dimitar.stoyanov » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:31 pm

Hi all,

I have a two weeks retention policy for the Backup jobs, and Backup Copy Jobs with GFS – YQMW...
Now my space for the archives is going to end and I will have to use Tape. OK – this was the idea from the very beginning.
So I recorded the archives. I wanted to keep the jobs topology and just to “cut the chain” and remove the oldest GFS files from all jobs at the same time (in one job) and put them on the tape. I was not able to choose which backup files (from jobs perspective) to go to the tapes but I used Repository location. So I have all my archives to tapes. It was not perfect, but still good way! But now it’s time to delete them from the repository. And this is the funy part. I tried to delete them manually (move them just in case) and rescan the Repo – Nothing. Tried to remove them from the gui, delete them manually, and add only last one (Full) – Nothing. Always shows me the full chain.
I assume that these records are in the DB, and I will have to change the retention policy (to clear the fake restore points)…and then to return it back again (the retention policy)…and this I should to for all my Backup Copy Jobs… or I missed something?

P.S. The version is 7…looking for time for update, hope to be soon :)

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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:34 pm

Dimitar, if you've removed backup files manually, corresponding records will still be displayed in Veeam B&R console until being wiped out according to retention settings. You can ask support to clean them up from the database though.
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby dimitar.stoyanov » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:38 pm

Thanks Alexander,

So is there a right way to remove the oldest backup files from the GFS chain without changing the retention policy?
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:43 pm

Disabling GFS or lowering the number of corresponding GFS restore points to keep should help.
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby dimitar.stoyanov » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:51 pm

OK, I get it. This is the workaround... so count me in for feature request to implement some simple option, to be able to delete the oldest backup files from the chain without efforts and workarounds. :)

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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:56 pm

It will be deleted automatically according to retention settings. So you just want to delete it prior retention comes into play but right after copying it to tape, right?
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby dimitar.stoyanov » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:15 pm

That’s right! Because of low disk space…
For example, the retention policy is set to 4 years, but now there are backups from the last 2 years and the space is gone. So I put them on tape, except the last 2 full backups, and now I have space for another ~2 years. Just that part with deletion was not as I was thinking :) …and if I have to change or disable the retention, I have to do that to all my jobs, and after that I will have to put it back / enable again.
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:19 pm

Seems you do not need to set yearly backups retention to 4 in this case. You just need to maintain one or two yearly backups, which you can offload to tape at some point in time during a year.
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby dimitar.stoyanov » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:33 pm

Yes, it is correct!
And probably I will reconfigure that.
But still... even if I set the retention to some shorter period, I will want to be able to delete the backups just after the backup to tape process. If I set too short period, there will be a possibility autorotation to delete backups before to offload them to tape (lose data). Setting up too long retention policy is the situation that I am now - low disk space. So in both cases I think that it will be useful to be able to manually delete some backups from the chain.

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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:41 pm

For me it is just a matter of setting proper retention and scheduling the jobs properly, but anyway, thank you for the feedback.
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:21 am

Dimitar,
You can always use a short retention for backup to disk job and long retention for tape media rotation. I would recommend you to upgrade, as backup copy as a source for backup to tape job is supported only in v8. Otherwise, you have to use file to tape job in v7. Thanks.
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby dimitar.stoyanov » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:57 pm

Dimitry,
The tapes will not be rotated. The archives on them will be probably used as “forever “ archives. However, my goal is achieved and everyone is happy :) (I disabled the gfs to all my jobs, then waited until next run - the old backups was delleted, and after that enabled it again).
I will upgrade asap …
Thanks!
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[MERGED] GFS

Veeam Logoby Steen » Sat May 02, 2015 8:28 am

Is there any support for GFS (grandfather-father-son)?
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Sat May 02, 2015 12:27 pm

Hi Steen,
GFS-to-tape native support in our plans, for now it`s recommended to for a workaround:
Create a media pool called “Weekly” with retention period equal to X weeks.
Create a backup to tape job called “Weekly” and point to the “Weekly” media pool and schedule it to run on weekly basis.
Create a media pool called “Monthly” with retention period equal to X months.
Create a backup to tape job called “Monthly” and point to the “Monthly” media pool and schedule it to run on monthly basis.
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Re: GFS to Tape

Veeam Logoby Steen » Mon May 04, 2015 9:14 am

Shestakov wrote:Hi Steen,
GFS-to-tape native support in our plans, for now it`s recommended to for a workaround:
Create a media pool called “Weekly” with retention period equal to X weeks.
Create a backup to tape job called “Weekly” and point to the “Weekly” media pool and schedule it to run on weekly basis.
Create a media pool called “Monthly” with retention period equal to X months.
Create a backup to tape job called “Monthly” and point to the “Monthly” media pool and schedule it to run on monthly basis.
Thanks!


But how do You do when Weekly and Monthly job will execute same day?
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