-
- Influencer
- Posts: 15
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Dec 21, 2016 9:43 am
- Full Name: Mikael Gustafsson
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 For restore file directly from tape. Please implement, it would save us hours. We´ve never had a reqason to restore a VM from tape, but individual files, that happens regularly.
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 83
- Liked: 9 times
- Joined: Mar 26, 2015 9:30 pm
- Full Name: Tim Diekhans
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 for direct file restore from me as well. 40TB file server here -.-
-
- Novice
- Posts: 8
- Liked: never
- Joined: Mar 02, 2017 8:00 pm
- Full Name: Vincent Hughes
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
sibinsam wrote:Granular file restore....
+1 for direct file restore as well.tym wrote:+1 for direct file restore from me as well. 40TB file server here -.-
-
- Expert
- Posts: 164
- Liked: 9 times
- Joined: Jan 28, 2014 5:41 pm
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Patiently waiting for this feature as well. Since Veeam offers the ability to pull a single guest file from a regular backup / replica, this would be a nice tape backup addition. Guess for now we'll be doing file backup instead of VM backup to tape.Dima P. wrote:Guys,
We understand that file restore from VM on tape is also a very important functionality. We are looking into this feature request.
+1 me please
-
- Service Provider
- Posts: 158
- Liked: 9 times
- Joined: Dec 05, 2014 2:13 pm
- Full Name: Iain Green
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
A lot of posts on here.. What is the latest for this request on the road map?
Many thanks
Iain Green
Iain Green
-
- Product Manager
- Posts: 20413
- Liked: 2301 times
- Joined: Oct 26, 2012 3:28 pm
- Full Name: Vladimir Eremin
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
We cannot provide any comments regarding features road map.
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 315
- Liked: 38 times
- Joined: Sep 29, 2010 3:37 pm
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
(sigh) Here I am - restoring a 300gb vm from tape so I can restore a 139KB file...
-
- Expert
- Posts: 164
- Liked: 9 times
- Joined: Jan 28, 2014 5:41 pm
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
I was hoping that 9.5 U2 will help address this but it doesn't appear to based off of the feature list.
-
- Veeam Software
- Posts: 21139
- Liked: 2141 times
- Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am
- Full Name: Alexander Fogelson
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Correct, this update doesn't provide this functionality.
-
- Expert
- Posts: 133
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Dec 15, 2015 1:07 pm
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Very disappointing that this basic functionality does still not exist in Veeam
-
- Expert
- Posts: 164
- Liked: 9 times
- Joined: Jan 28, 2014 5:41 pm
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Perhaps there are just more technical hurdles to overcome when dealing with linear media vs random access?
-
- Expert
- Posts: 221
- Liked: 48 times
- Joined: Nov 27, 2015 2:26 pm
- Full Name: Konstantin
- Location: Saint Petersburg
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Correct. That's not just a simple improvement that may be introduced in update but a major feature.
-
- Novice
- Posts: 6
- Liked: never
- Joined: Mar 21, 2017 11:27 am
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 for granular file restore.
I was writing a manual for our customer on how to restore files from tape and raised an eyebrow when I saw that this feature was missing and had to append a workaround starting with "when you want to restore a file from tape, first you need to restore a restore point into a primary repository..."
I was writing a manual for our customer on how to restore files from tape and raised an eyebrow when I saw that this feature was missing and had to append a workaround starting with "when you want to restore a file from tape, first you need to restore a restore point into a primary repository..."
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 389
- Liked: 54 times
- Joined: Sep 05, 2011 1:31 pm
- Full Name: Andre
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
is there already an improvement in the upcomming Version 10?
-
- Veeam Software
- Posts: 21139
- Liked: 2141 times
- Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am
- Full Name: Alexander Fogelson
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Hi Andre, no news re: v10 in this regard so far. You can track all the announcements here.
-
- Novice
- Posts: 3
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Feb 28, 2014 2:41 pm
- Full Name: Kirk
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Have really been considering Veeam B&R, but have grave concerns about this limitation. The first request for this functionality in this thread was in July 2014.
Veeam needs three years and still hasn't addressed this feature request Doesn't seem to be much of a priority.
I have been considering Veeam as a replacement for my company's current backup product, but this seems like a big limitation to me.
Kirk
Veeam needs three years and still hasn't addressed this feature request Doesn't seem to be much of a priority.
I have been considering Veeam as a replacement for my company's current backup product, but this seems like a big limitation to me.
Kirk
-
- Influencer
- Posts: 13
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Apr 04, 2016 4:48 pm
- Full Name: Craig Wardell
- Location: Preston, Lancashire
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
HI Kirk
As a work around I started backing up files to tape which worked fine for a time but then I hit another wall where the database for SQL express got to big and started failing.
I wasn't aware you needed to have a minimum of SQL standard in a production environment for simple jobs like backing files up to tape.
I do like Veeam and would recommend it to anyone but you currently you do need to plan for simple things like backing files up to tape and recovering from tape.
Currently in the process of buying and installing SQL standard so that I can start backing files to tape up again.
This does not get around the fact you need adequate storage to recover a file located on a VM, but it does allow you to plan the recovery of files that you think you may need to recover from tape.
Craig
As a work around I started backing up files to tape which worked fine for a time but then I hit another wall where the database for SQL express got to big and started failing.
I wasn't aware you needed to have a minimum of SQL standard in a production environment for simple jobs like backing files up to tape.
I do like Veeam and would recommend it to anyone but you currently you do need to plan for simple things like backing files up to tape and recovering from tape.
Currently in the process of buying and installing SQL standard so that I can start backing files to tape up again.
This does not get around the fact you need adequate storage to recover a file located on a VM, but it does allow you to plan the recovery of files that you think you may need to recover from tape.
Craig
-
- Lurker
- Posts: 1
- Liked: never
- Joined: Jun 12, 2017 8:39 am
- Contact:
[MERGED] Restoring single file from tape?
Hello everybody,
I'm trying to restore a single file from tapes. I've loaded up the appropriate tapes from a month and a half back. Though when I go to the tapes in "veeam backup and replication" I can only see the VBK files, and not individual files in those VBK.
When I go to "restore from tape" and click the "add" button to choose a location I can browse to the needed VM server, but again, I can only see severeal VBK and two VIB files. Is there a way to see the files held in those VBK files on the tapes, or a way to do a search for the file I needed?
Thanks in advance!
I'm trying to restore a single file from tapes. I've loaded up the appropriate tapes from a month and a half back. Though when I go to the tapes in "veeam backup and replication" I can only see the VBK files, and not individual files in those VBK.
When I go to "restore from tape" and click the "add" button to choose a location I can browse to the needed VM server, but again, I can only see severeal VBK and two VIB files. Is there a way to see the files held in those VBK files on the tapes, or a way to do a search for the file I needed?
Thanks in advance!
-
- Product Manager
- Posts: 20413
- Liked: 2301 times
- Joined: Oct 26, 2012 3:28 pm
- Full Name: Vladimir Eremin
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
If you enable indexing in backup job settings and add backup server to Enterprise Manager, you will be able to search individual files residing on tapes. Thanks.
-
- Influencer
- Posts: 15
- Liked: 2 times
- Joined: Jun 01, 2010 3:48 pm
- Full Name: Chris A
- Contact:
[MERGED] Granular restore from tape
I understand that currently it is not possible to do a granular restore from tape. But I see that you can restore a VM from tape back to a repository. Once that is in the repository, can a granular restore be done from there?
-
- Product Manager
- Posts: 20413
- Liked: 2301 times
- Joined: Oct 26, 2012 3:28 pm
- Full Name: Vladimir Eremin
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
If you're using per-VM chain, you can restore a particular VM to repository. Otherwise, a whole backup (most likely, containing other VMs as well) will be restored there. After that, you will be able to perform granular item restore. Thanks.
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 25
- Liked: 2 times
- Joined: Dec 21, 2012 2:32 pm
- Full Name: Mike Taggart
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 for granular file restore
3+ years and waiting ... tap, tap, tap, tap ....
We get told by those from Veeam in the forum to post things like this, that we'll be considered and yet, this one thread has been around 3 yrs and it's still not in the product despite a lot of feedback stating it's very much needed.
What gives? We did as asked.
3+ years and waiting ... tap, tap, tap, tap ....
We get told by those from Veeam in the forum to post things like this, that we'll be considered and yet, this one thread has been around 3 yrs and it's still not in the product despite a lot of feedback stating it's very much needed.
What gives? We did as asked.
-
- Expert
- Posts: 164
- Liked: 9 times
- Joined: Jan 28, 2014 5:41 pm
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
My patience has expired for a robust file to tape solution. Needing to pay for SQL just for tape backup?
Has anyone found an good alternative for file to tape backups using tape library's like the SuperLoader3?
Thanks
Has anyone found an good alternative for file to tape backups using tape library's like the SuperLoader3?
Thanks
-
- Lurker
- Posts: 1
- Liked: never
- Joined: Jan 05, 2018 12:20 pm
- Full Name: Tim Knight
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
Here's the 2018 request for a faster recovery method from Tape, when dealing with individual files.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
-
- Influencer
- Posts: 22
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Jul 05, 2016 11:27 pm
- Full Name: Tom
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 for me, have been waiting for this feature for a long time and I still get roasted by my managers about how long it takes to restore a single file from our file server and that we should use Backup Exec again
-
- Novice
- Posts: 6
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Oct 15, 2010 5:16 am
- Full Name: Daniel Abels
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 Here too...
FLR from Tape in a one-step process is probably the only reason why we don't use Veeam for our Backups (we only use it for Replicas.)
I'm frankly looking for any excuse to move away from our current Backup system.
But with some relatively beefy file servers (17+ TB) having to first restore everything to disk to get at individual files/folders is not really a workable solution.
I guess going by the length of time this request has been brewing, and putting my coders hat on, I can see this is not an easy problem to solve (due to the nature of the backup technology)
So, is there any chance of some feedback as to whether we can expect this feature to come about in the short-medium term, or are we just dreaming?
FLR from Tape in a one-step process is probably the only reason why we don't use Veeam for our Backups (we only use it for Replicas.)
I'm frankly looking for any excuse to move away from our current Backup system.
But with some relatively beefy file servers (17+ TB) having to first restore everything to disk to get at individual files/folders is not really a workable solution.
I guess going by the length of time this request has been brewing, and putting my coders hat on, I can see this is not an easy problem to solve (due to the nature of the backup technology)
So, is there any chance of some feedback as to whether we can expect this feature to come about in the short-medium term, or are we just dreaming?
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 32
- Liked: 2 times
- Joined: Dec 14, 2017 1:49 pm
- Full Name: Ioannis Tsitsiklis
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 we tape users need some love on restoring.
Since I am using both Veeam and Backup exec let me say that backup exec also has to restore the entire VMDK before restoring the individual file (but it can be done in one step/job). So if you have a 7TB file server, you will have to restore all of the 7TB and increments in order to restore a single file. As stated in the documentation "Tape backups require a staging location that is at least as large as the data that you back up. Backup Exec extracts the granular data to the staging location while it is being cataloged.". Also, GRT does not support encryption at rest, which is why we do not or rarely use it.
Since I am using both Veeam and Backup exec let me say that backup exec also has to restore the entire VMDK before restoring the individual file (but it can be done in one step/job). So if you have a 7TB file server, you will have to restore all of the 7TB and increments in order to restore a single file. As stated in the documentation "Tape backups require a staging location that is at least as large as the data that you back up. Backup Exec extracts the granular data to the staging location while it is being cataloged.". Also, GRT does not support encryption at rest, which is why we do not or rarely use it.
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 389
- Liked: 54 times
- Joined: Sep 05, 2011 1:31 pm
- Full Name: Andre
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
i would also like to hear a feedback on this. Restore single file is still an import task as most of the restore request (at least in our company) are for missing files.
it is one of the thinigs which makes completely switch from other vendor to veeam a "show stopper"
it is one of the thinigs which makes completely switch from other vendor to veeam a "show stopper"
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 80
- Liked: 4 times
- Joined: Sep 07, 2014 11:15 am
- Full Name: Stephan G
- Contact:
Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work
+1 for me too. Had to restore 7 TB recently to start 4 VMs in Surebackup to recover a file from a SharePoint Recycle bin (and find out who deleted it)
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 33
- Liked: 4 times
- Joined: Oct 10, 2011 7:10 pm
- Full Name: Phil Riley
- Contact:
[MERGED] Restore From Tape
Hi All,
I have a backup job with 17 objects that creates a 1.1TB file. And this backup is offloaded to the tape server.
If I had to recover a file or VM from this backup, does the tape recovery process need to stage the entire backup file from tape somewhere and then extract the VM or file from it, or does it extract the individual file or VM direct from the tape?
Thanks
Phil
I have a backup job with 17 objects that creates a 1.1TB file. And this backup is offloaded to the tape server.
If I had to recover a file or VM from this backup, does the tape recovery process need to stage the entire backup file from tape somewhere and then extract the VM or file from it, or does it extract the individual file or VM direct from the tape?
Thanks
Phil
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 19 guests