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Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by PostBE » Jul 08, 2014 12:23 am 2 people like this post

We currently run incremental backups during the week and a full backup once per week before sending this whole chain to tape once per week.
I have recently needed to restore a few small files from our virtualised file server from tape and this is where the headaches started for us.
After talking to the support people it was conveyed to me that the whole backup chain which is 6.2Tb was needed to be streamed from tape to disk and from there I could grab the files that I needed to be restored.
The problem here is I don't have this kind of diskspace spare, I don't have days to wait, And more importantly why does the whole backup need to be restored if I only need files from one server within this backup.

I guess I am wanting clarification if this is indeed how Veeam works as I remember that Symantec backup exec through GRT could just restore the one virtual machine back to the backup server and from there it would restore the files you need without having to restore the full backup chain consisting of many other virtual machines.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by foggy » Jul 08, 2014 8:46 am

Dale, you were informed correctly. Currently, in order to restore a single file from tape backup, you need to restore the entire backup file from tape to disk and then use regular Veeam B&R file level restore (tape-to-disk-to-disk restore).

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by PostBE » Jul 08, 2014 10:48 pm

Foggy thanks for your reply I understand that the tape implementation was a new feature with version 7 so I'm hoping that this is work in progress for Veeam and we will see further advancement with this in the new version 8.
The best part of backup exec was the way it handled tape as you could drill down to specific files within the tape backup as long as you selected granular recovery for vmware and from there as previously mentioned you could restore just these files once that virtual machine had been streamed from tape to the backup server.

Food for thought....

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by v.Eremin » Jul 09, 2014 8:05 am

Hi, Dale, thank you for the feedback; much appreciated. We do understand the request and have received similar ones several times. But there are different features that have been requested more frequently and, thus, they currently are given more priority. Thanks.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by scott.anderson » Aug 20, 2014 12:25 am

So if more people request it then its priority increases :)

Add one to the request for granular recovery direct from tape please!!!

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by v.Eremin » Aug 20, 2014 8:15 am

scott.anderson wrote:So if more people request it then its priority increases :)
You've got it correctly. :) Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by jacob.estrin » Dec 19, 2014 2:12 am

That is a Plus one for me too.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by McClane » Dec 22, 2014 7:45 am

I would like that feature, too. Especially nice for our small customers.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by mpozar » Dec 24, 2014 7:23 am

Same for me. We have a few customers and they are all requesting this capability.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by sibinsam » Dec 24, 2014 7:26 am

+1 :)

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by Dima P. » Dec 24, 2014 11:54 am

Guys, thank you for being so proactive. I wonder if you have to choose between granular VM restore from tape and granular file restore from tape what would be your choice?

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by sibinsam » Dec 24, 2014 12:30 pm

Granular file restore.... :)

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by PostBE » Dec 29, 2014 12:15 am

For me it would definitely be granular file restore but I wouldn't turn my nose up at being able to restore a single VM out of the backup either.

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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by stuartmacgreen » Dec 30, 2014 11:37 pm

Granular file restore for me, but happy with single VM restore also.
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Re: Recovery from Tape - Needs major work

Post by pawel » Jan 07, 2015 9:11 pm

Please add me to this. File would be more important but VM would be nice too.

Any road map on this yet? I know you guys don't like to announce features unless you plan them but it would be nice to know how much you are considering this. I haven't got my tape infrastructure going yet (getting ready to order the hardware now) but this seems like a huge feature is missing.

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