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Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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It was suggested by Gostev that support was coming in this post: post272208.html?hilit=worm#p272208

Will LTO WORM media work with Veeam?
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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Hello John,

Support for WORM media is planned. Stay tuned for official announcements :wink:
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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Does this mean that WORM tapes present will not work or that they are not 'supported'

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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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John,

Current version of Veeam B&R cannot continue WORM tape: it can start it from scratch but cannot append data.
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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So, one WORM tape per backup? I will be able to make the tape part of the media library and then run one backup, then that tape is done?

If so, that's not all bad - I just need to manage my backup schedule carefully until Veeam is truly WORM compliant.

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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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If WORM media is partially empty Veeam B&R cannot append data to the remaining free space (imagine you wrote 1GB of backup, the remaining free space will be lost). That’s the reason we keep saying that WORM media is currently not supported.
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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Also please avoid inventorying WORM tapes since in the current version 9.5 u3a this operation writes a header to a tape and the tape becomes no more usable. One-time writing should work but still not guaranteed so if I were you I'd wait for the official WORM support.
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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So I can not find any mention of WORM in the 9.5 Update 4 Upgrade Notes. Does that mean that WORM missed this release?
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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John,

WORM Media Pools are available in Update 4. Full list of features available in Veeam B&R U4 will be provided during official GA launch. Cheers!
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Excellent! Thanks.
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John,

Happy testing, please do not forget to share your thoughts or improvements requests around new (and old) functionality with us. Cheers!
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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Hi. I just wanted to know if appending to WORM tapes is still impossible with update 4a even just after inventorying them? I recently installed update 4a(community edition), and after creating new WORM media set and inventorying them, the file to tape jobs fail, saying the tapes are write protected(they are not). Is this issue something that can be circumvented by putting these media in non-WORM media set as I used them that way without problems in the previous version? I'm not worried about WORM compliance. Just trying to use up WORM lying around for archival backups. Thanks for the help.
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Hello and welcome to the community pjk1011.

Can you please clarify was this WORM media used before by Veeam tape jobs or not? Thank you in advance!
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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The WORM tapes were new when I put them into my library. I did run inventory jobs on them afterward.l, but they are virgin tapes otherwise.
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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pjk1011,

Brand new WORM media should work. Please raise a support case and our folks can identify why these media cannot be used. Do not forget to share the case ID with us. Cheers!
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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hmm so WORM is media tape attribute ?

i tought WORM was veeam software based, does this mean a REGULAR LTO tape is not being worm able ?
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Re: Will WORM tapes work with Veeam?

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Hi Frank. WORM tapes differ from regular LTO tapes. It is hardware based. Once written, it cannot be erased no matter which software you're using.
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