Feature request - periodically full backup

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Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Sablerider » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:58 am

Hi There,

It would be great if you can configure a periodically full backup in the Backup-Configuration. I am aware of the manual possibility, but thats not what we are searching for.

Event storage producers as EMC, netapp, and so on declare that forever incremental is way to dangerous in a productive enviroment because the database-file could become corrupted.

An option like "do a full backup every x days, or x month" combined with auto-deletion of old full backups "keep the last 3 full backups" would be great.

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Alex
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Mike Resseler » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:33 am

Hi Alex,

First: we have different mechanisms to ensure that this issue doesn't arise. But putting up my en-user hat, I do understand your concern a bit.

The issue I see, is that building this in will make the solution not so end-user friendly anymore. You will need more target storage (in my case, your example would overrun my 1 TB USB disk (yes, I have a lot of data :-))) and for most end-users, your retention is difficult to understand. End-users want something very simple (fire-and-forget)

Can you explain us in what situations you want to use this type of backup? Is this for servers? Corporate endpoints? What is going to be your target? And so on...

The better we understand your (and everyone else) use-case, the better we can prepare future versions.

All feedback is welcome

Thanks

Mike
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Sablerider » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:10 am

Hi Mike,

We are a MSP (Multi Service Provider) and we plan to implement this solution for quick client-restores in case of an hardware fault of an end-user-client. We want to sell this to our custormers as a service and need to rely on secure full backups.

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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Mike Resseler » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:16 am

Alexander,

Are you using labtech? In that case we announced the integration for it a couple of weeks ago... http://www.veeam.com/blog/centralized-management-for-veeam-endpoint-backup-with-veeam-endpoint-for-labtech.html
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:43 am

Alexander, out of curiosity - how many endpoint do you plan to protect with Veeam Endpoint Backup?
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby guitarfish » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:35 pm

I made a feature request for periodic Fulls also, back in May, 2015. Any chance this will be incorporated? I haven't been using VEB yet because of not having it.
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:01 pm

Any chance this will be incorporated?

Of course. More requests we get - more chances it is going to be implemented with higher priority. :wink:
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby pallingd » Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:15 pm

I have plenty of disk space but slow Internet connection.
I'd like an option for periodic fulls too. I need it for not having to copy too many restore points back from remote storage in case of disaster recovery, while still having the possibility of keeping a large number of restore points. Right now I keep 90 restore points, and it will take weeks to copy them back. Of course it would be quicker to send a NAS by courier, but the cost is exorbitant to the place I'm servicing.
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Mike Resseler » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:46 pm

Hi,

For now you can use a script with Task Scheduler to create a standalone full on a weekly basis if you want to have that functionality. That being said, when Veeam Agent for Windows 2.0 (VAW, new name of VEB) comes out, there will be an edition available that gives you more scheduling options. We will have beta's of them soon

Brgds,
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby pallingd » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:20 pm

Thanks for the info about v.2, Mike.
A standalone full every week isn't very usable. We would still have to transport the full chain before the newest incremental can be restored, because the newest incrementals cannot be added to the newest standalone full. The .vbk and the .vibs will have to be transported back on site because unstable Internet makes it impossible to read directly from the remote repository.
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Mike Resseler » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:29 pm

Understood, and we hear you. I hope that you will try out the new beta and see if it fits your needs better :-)
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:08 pm

Hi pallingd,

Any chance you are using Veeam B&R as a target?
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby pallingd » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:52 pm

Hi Dima

Not in this case, I'm not. It's just a single Windows 2012 R2 Essentials with about 15 clients placed in Myanmar. The clients use Windows Essentials built-in backup to the server which backs itself up with Veeam Endpoint to a NAS (which Windows Backup cannot handle, strangely enough), and the NAS replicates the backup directory to a similar NAS here in Denmark. Should be easy, but not really so when Internet connection is cut off several times a day and in between works very varying speed.
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Re: Feature request - periodically full backup

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:37 pm

pallingd,

Thanks. I was going to suggest the backup copy job from one repository to another (with possibility to use WAN acceleration), but unfortunately that’s not the case.

P.S. Upcoming version of VAW will have an option to backup to cloud connect and backup cache feature (failover to local storage when client gets disconnected from primary target) This options might help you to solve this goal.
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