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How to configure hourly backups?

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Currently I have the following schedule:

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I thought that configuring this way VEB would backup hourly, but that isn't happening. How can I configure hourly backups?

PS: My backup target is a SOHO NAS on gigabit.
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Juan,
Thanks for the request.
The "1 hour" setting is for the events not for the scheduler and prevents endpoint backup to create too often backups when you boot your computer or connect/disconnect your storage.

I´m not sure about this, but at least for the actual versions UserInterface there is no way to backup on hourly base.
There is an option to start a command that create a backup and if you place this command in a .bat file and use Windows Task Planer to start this hourly is maybe an acceptable workaround.
https://helpcenter.veeam.com/endpoint/1 ... p_cmd.html


This first version of endpoint backup was built with "easy of use" in mind, that even non IT people can use it. So the interface was reduced to the most needed features only to make it clear and clean.
I´m sure our Product Manager will give feedback later what we plan for the next version that can potentially address your needs.
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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What a shame it isn't possible to do that using the GUI. I hope you guys release a newer version with this addressed as this is something very, very useful and a common need for IT and non-IT people. Anyway, thanks for the fast reply! :D
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As I wrote the primary focus of this was to backup client OS and to keep the UI as simple as possible. I think it is by far not common that clients are backed up more frequently than daily. In many cases even less. Veeam will fore sure enhance the scheduler as we will release a Workstation and Server Version of the Veeam Endpoint Backup. Veeam will keep the free edition as 3rd version. The product will be renamed to "Veeam Agent for Windows (Free/Workstation/Server)".
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Hi Andreas,

When will Veeam release Workstation and Server version of the Veeam Endpoint Backup? You got any idea?

Thanks,

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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Based on the forum digest from last Monday:
"Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows 2.0 (next version of rebranded Veeam Endpoint Backup) is at feature complete stage and we're planning to make the public beta available in the second half of November. And RTM/GA dates will largely depend on your feedback on the beta – and how many bugs you folks manage to find ;)"
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Good to know, will it be possible to upgrade from VEB 1.5.0.306 and keep configurations and DBs after you guys release the final version for Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows 2.0 Free?
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It is not communicated yet. If you look at other products and version (Endpoint 1 => 1.5) upgrades it is likely an inplace upgrade that keeps configuration.
We will see. For sure it will be documented in the release notes, where you can find an upgrade section.
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Juan,

We normally will deliver upgrade (both manual in 1st phase) and then through the UI with automatic checking as we always have done before. It will be updating from the free version to the free version. How to update to paid versions is something which I am not yet certain off.

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Paid version will require a license key that will unlock all features that are available in the paid edition. And yes, upgrade will preserve your existing configuration.
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Vitaliy,

Can you write us about differences (features) between free and paid version ?
I'm very curious :-)

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JChris wrote:Currently I have the following schedule:

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I thought that configuring this way VEB would backup hourly, but that isn't happening. How can I configure hourly backups?

PS: My backup target is a SOHO NAS on gigabit.
Did you get this answered JChris

I set my backups up to run at 8:00 pm the first ran for awhile then next day it only ran half the time cause it only does a incremental on files that are changed.
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Jan,

There are 3 editions in total. Free (which is current version + W2016 support, direct restore to Azure (but it requires veeam B&R9.5), Direct restore to Hyper-V (requires B&R9.5) and end to end encryption.

Workstation is FREE edition + integration with Veeam Cloud Connect, Backup Cache for Remote targets, configuration & management API and enterprise technical support

Server edition is FREE + Workstation + Guest file indexing and search, transaction log processing and application-aware processing

Hope it helps

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Does the Server Editon come with more options in scheduling?
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Yes, server edition will have the same scheduling options as Veeam Backup & Replication has today for Virtual Machines
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Thanks, Mike! For a more detailed comparison (free vs. paid edition), please wait for the official announcement on our website.
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Mike Resseler wrote:Jan,

Server edition is FREE + Workstation + Guest file indexing and search, transaction log processing and application-aware processing

Hope it helps

Mike
Mike, I thought the current VEB did transaction log processing and application aware processing? Am I misunderstanding the terms?

I reviewed the Application-Aware Image Processing FAQ, but it is still not clear to me. Actually, the FAQ says log pruning is part of Application Aware Processing.

We run VEB on some domain controllers, and it does prevent the Windows event log warnings about AD not being backed up. Also, there's a physical Exchange 2010 server (where VEB is being used as an interim until migration to virtualized Exchange 2016 and B&R 9 has been completed) and the Exchange transaction logs are cleared by the VEB backup.
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Hi Peter,

My apologies, I should have stated it more clear... AAP in server edition is the same application awareness as in Backup & Replication which is more advanced. You are right that in the free edition pruning of the logs is done after a successful backup. But as stated, our AAP is more advanced.

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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Peter,

Basically, in current version you can install VEB on a Windows Server. VEB detects that it’s a server OS and start to truncate logs by default but it does not collect the metadata regarding the installed applications. Said behavior remains for VAW 2.0 Free version

VAW 2.0 Server mode will provide the full control of the process and add additional logic for backing up your applications. Why this important? Applications like SQL, Oracle or SharePoint may require impersonation with admin creds to carefully handle the backup process (frankly speaking, backup may fail if you do not use correct set of creds for the application). Finally, with VAW running in server mode VBR’s Application Item Restore functionality will work because VAW collects all the required metadata.
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Mike and Dima,

Thank you for explaining.

Request: After VAW goes GA, make a product comparison available somewhere that is more technical than the usual feature list.
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Hi Peter,

Thanks for the feedback. We will have a regular what’s new doc with all the features listed for sure, public edition comparison is planned as well.
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Testing VAW 2.0 beta now and there still doesnt seem to be a way to do hourly/ more frequent backups, can you confirm this is still going to be a feature in GA?

EDIT: NVM, I installed on a server and I can see the settings - would be nice to have the scheduling options for a server too though?
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Hi Adapterer,

I'm afraid you lost me here. You installed VAW on a server and you can seen the settings? You mean the scheduling options? So you can see that hourly is possible. This is specifically for the server version?

Let me know
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Sorry - to be more specific, if I install VAW on a workstation (Windows 10 in this case), the more advanced scheduling options weren't available. If I install on Server 2012 - they are there (along with guest processing etc).

I think having the advanced scheduling options on a workstation would be a good feature, daily isnt good enough for some :)
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Got it, that makes more sense :-)

I doubt that more advanced scheduling will come to the workstation, but as already stated here, you can simply create a .bat file (or similar) and schedule it with task scheduler

This should be used (you can test first manually from the command line):

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"C:\Program Files\Veeam\Endpoint Backup\Veeam.EndPoint.Manager.exe" /backup
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Whilst that's an OK workaround, advanced scheduling really needs to be there for people like creative professionals who have fast DAS for media creation.

A media shop near me use ShadowProtect for this exact purpose - think workstations with Xeon's, big professional GPU's and big flash storage - once a day wouldnt cut it.

That's my 0.02 anyway...
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Interesting case. Thanks for pointing out. I'll leave it to DimaP now to think about this ;-)
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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I can understand why you may not want to enable this for 'endpoint', as many users machines may not be fast enough to support this, more support tickets etc etc.

But this is 'workstation', and in any case, you have already written the feature so to me it doesnt make sense to 'gimp' the workstation version in this way.

Make that 0.04 :D
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Hi adapterer,

Why not to use VAW server edition if you want backups to be created more frequently (and suggested workaround does not work)?
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Re: How to configure hourly backups?

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Hi Dima,

It's not practical to ask a user to change their operating system - the proper scheduling options dont seem to be available on a Desktop OS currently.
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