VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

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VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby JoshuaPostSAMC » Fri May 19, 2017 3:34 pm

Is that enough acronyms in the subject?

With Endpoint 1.5 I could use the free edition to backup to my Backup and Recovery 9.5 server's repository. Now that Veeam Agent 2.0 is out, there is Free, Workstation, and Server, but from what I can tell, free is unable to backup to a B&R repository. Is that correct? So we must be using a paid support version to continue sending to our existing Veeam repository?


https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/agent ... tml?ver=20
Managing Veeam Agent License NOTE:
If you have been using Veeam Endpoint Backup FREE with Veeam Backup & Replication, after you install the Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows license in Veeam Backup & Replication, Veeam Endpoint Backup FREE will become unable to connect to the Veeam backup server and create backups the Veeam backup repository.
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby rekun » Fri May 19, 2017 4:50 pm

From what i understand you should still be able to use the free agent, as long as B&R is paid for.

So to wrap it up, you need either a license for B&R or the Agent, but both are NOT required
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri May 19, 2017 4:54 pm

You will be able to backup to Veeam B&R repository with Free edition of Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows. The statement above means that after installing its license into Veeam B&R, the previous Veeam Endpoint Backup FREE installation will not be able to do that. Here's the full editions comparison for Veeam Agent for Windows.
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby JoshuaPostSAMC » Fri May 19, 2017 7:56 pm

Thanks. When I look at the Agent itself, it says that licenses are managed by the B&R server, and on the B&R server I only have Workstation, Server, or Revoke. I haven't tried revoking a license yet to see what happens.
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Wed May 31, 2017 10:10 pm

With Endpoint 1.5 I could use the free edition to backup to my Backup and Recovery 9.5 server's repository.

This functionality remains.

When I look at the Agent itself, it says that licenses are managed by the B&R server, and on the B&R server I only have Workstation, Server, or Revoke.

It means that you either installed agent license to the VBR server or to Enterprise manager. You can remove the license completely per this KB article
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby SynthosKralupy » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:33 am

Dima P. wrote:With Endpoint 1.5 I could use the free edition to backup to my Backup and Recovery 9.5 server's repository.
This functionality remains.


Hmm, I don't think so... I got error with 1.5 agent against VBR 9.5 update 2:

" Error: Veeam agents can only use advanced backup functionality when backing up to licensed versions of Veeam Backup & Replication. "


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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:43 pm

Can you elaborate when you get this error? Do you have VBR license installed in the VBR console? Some VAW features indeed require agent license but free mode should work without one.
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby SynthosKralupy » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:52 am

I found notice in documentation (Editions comparsion): "FREE licenses cannot be mixed with Workstation and/or Server licenses within the same installation of Veeam Backup & Replication". And really, if VAW license is added to B&R server, you can't use agent in FREE mode :(

Which is quite sad. I have some agents where FREE license is enough for me and some physical computers where workstation license is necessary at the same time. But I can't use them against same B&R server.
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby omfk » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:50 pm

I successfully used VEB 1.5 to backup to a VBR repository (Essential).

No I've updated VEB 1.5 to VAW 2.0.0.700 - Free Edition. Based on everything what I've read before I was under the opinion that I would be still able to backup to the VBR repository. No mixture of VAW licenses, of course. I would like to use only FREE licenses as I don't need the additional features.

Unfortunately I can't connect to the repository. This is the error message:

Unable to obtain a Veeam Agent for Windows license from the backup server.
Unable to establish authenticated client-server connection.


There are still some other servers with VEB1.5 which work fine.
Is my setup never going to work? Or did I missed something? I didn't find anything about installing a free license.

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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby Technogod » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:53 am

I've never been able to backup to a B&R 9.5 U2 repository using VAW 2.0 unless I have a Workstation license.
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:36 pm

I have some agents where FREE license is enough for me and some physical computers where workstation license is necessary at the same time. But I can't use them against same B&R server.

That's true. As a potential workaround, you can use two separate VBR servers for FREE and licensed agents.
Unfortunately I can't connect to the repository. This is the error message:

What Veeam B&R version are you running?
I've never been able to backup to a B&R 9.5 U2 repository using VAW 2.0 unless I have a Workstation license.

Can you share the error you get when use VAW Free in conjunction with Veeam B&R as a target?
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby omfk » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:38 am

Dima P. wrote:What Veeam B&R version are you running?


I can only speak for my case (id#0218740)
VAW 2.0.0.700
VBR 9.5.0.1038 (Essential Standard)

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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:24 pm

Frank,

The provided info in the case details is not correct:

1. Free agent can backup to VBR with VBR license installed
2. Agent can backup to VBR FREE with agent license installed (VBR will distribute licenses to all connected agents in such case)
3. Agent can backup to VBR with agent license and VBR license installed (VBR will distribute licenses to all connected agents in such case)
4. Agent cannot backup to VBR FREE without any license

Regarding the error you got. Please make sure that you have repository permissions enabled and you are using VBR admin account while setting up connection from agent to VBR repository.
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby omfk » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:53 pm

Dima P. wrote:Frank,

The provided info in the case details is not correct:

1. Free agent can backup to VBR with VBR license installed


That's our setup and it is working meanwhile.

Regarding the error you got. Please make sure that you have repository permissions enabled and you are using VBR admin account while setting up connection from agent to VBR repository.


It turned out that I had a stupid typo; not in the password but in the user name:-(
An incremental backup based on a full backup previously made onto a local hdd is now working.

Questions regarding the actual performance will come in a separate thread.

BR
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Re: VAW Free and B&R 9.5 U2?

Veeam Logoby Dima P. » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:32 pm

Frank,

Thank you for confirming that it works. Cheers!
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