Windows Agent (not connected to B&R) scripting.

[TheZigPC]

It appears that the linux agent has a commandline that can list the job ID

https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/agent ... tml?ver=50

Is there any such option for the windows client?

[Dima P.]

Hello TheZigPC,

Veeam Agent for Windows has some minor commands supported but has it's own Configuration API, kindly take a look: Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows 5.0 Configurator Reference. Thank you!

[TheZigPC]

I saw those but I am not getting the information I need. I can export the current config but the ConfigID is not the one I can use when I run "Veeam.EndPoint.Backup.exe %GUID%" so I can open the software and edit a job (we leverage a support software program called ScreenConnect and this is how we can edit a job in 'backstage' if we know the backup job GUID). I also can not import an xml configuration without it being licensed or connected to B&R. We have several 'serverless' clients that backup to a local NAS using the Veeam agent.

[Dima P.]

Hello APG,

Configuration API indeed requires license and does not work in free edition. If you looking for a way to manage backup job configuration across several agents - I'd recommend to take a look at Agent Management capabilities of Veeam B&R. You can use Veeam Community Edition for 10 workstations without any license. Thank you!

[TheZigPC]

I can, and have used that for some clients but in a 'serverless' environment without a place to install Veeam Community Edition I am trying to find a solution.

[Mildur]

Hi AGP

and have used that for some clients but in a 'serverless' environment without a place to install Veeam Community Edition I am trying to find a solution.

You can‘t use Veeam’s free product (Agent and Community Edition) for your clients (customers). That would be against Veeam Enduser License Agreement. Just in case you mean customers with clients.
In that case, you must apply to veeams service provider program and use the veeam rental license. Or the customer needs to buy a end user license.

4.0 Free Licenses and Community Edition Licenses. Free and Community Edition License products can be used in Your own production environment and only by You in accordance with the terms and conditions of this EULA and the Licensing Policy. You may not use the Free and Community Edition Licenses to provide services to third parties (including support and consulting services for existing Free and Community Edition License installations) or to process third party data.

[TheZigPC]

We are not using Veeam to provide a billed service. These are break-fix customers who ask us "what can I use to backup our computer?". In those cases, we would install the Veeam client and configure it to backup to a NAS or USB drive, due to the nature of the EULA, the client/customer has their own Veeam login to download the products. This is entirely within their own ecosystem.

[Mildur]

In those cases, we would install the Veeam client and configure it to backup to a NAS or USB drive,

If you bill them for this installation, you have provided a service (implementation service). You need the correct license.
Someone from veeam will surely confirm that.

[TheZigPC]

Ah, we were recommending the client leverage Veeam for their own use for their own data in leu of using less-capable free backup software solutions (Windows Backup). I see the issue here in regards to consultation and setting it up on behalf of the customer after reading the EULA. If we can not assist a customer setting up the free product for their own use, I will be forced to recommend a different product for the client to use. There are other paid backup solutions, including a cloud provider that we resell that are simply outside of some client's budgets and Veeam is frankly a better solution than leaving a client with "Windows Backup".

I will add that in my own personal environment I do enjoy the Veeam Community Edition. The MSP I work for has explored the paid products to for reselling as an alternative to the one we currently sell and it did not meet the cost breakdown of the incumbent solution (that I personally do not like) that they have been selling for years.

[Gostev]

If we can not assist a customer setting up the free product for their own use, I will be forced to recommend a different product for the client to use.

That's OK with us. Please understand that we must ensure a level playing field among all of Veeam-powered MSPs. Those who are paying for the rental Veeam licenses must not automatically be at disadvantage in terms of their cost of business. And this EULA clause helps them to easily displace competing MSPs who are not operating in compliance with EULA.

[TheZigPC]

I understand the level playing field in terms of MSPs. For our 'managed' clients where we handle their backup setups, we have the other competitor product. The clients I am talking about are break-fix unmanaged clients that call us for help. In a perfect world, I would seriously want to switch to being an Veeam-powered MSP as I do find the backup and recovery process to be better but I don't make those decisions.