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Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by signal » Nov 15, 2016 12:36 pm

It should be possible to select several gateway servers for a repository.

Having e.g. two backup proxy servers that are identical and a shared storage solution (NAS) that both can reach equally should be possible to specify those two only. This could be a third option, or it could be a continuation of "The following server" where one is able to select more than one option.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by PTide » Nov 15, 2016 2:16 pm

Hi,

Could you please provide more details on the use case? In which case do you expect VBR server to switch from one gateway to another and back?

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by JoshuaPostSAMC » Nov 15, 2016 3:48 pm

I've heard rumor that in 9.5 this will be addressed.

I'm not sure if it is due to multiple streams going into a single backup file, but I wish each proxy could write directly to the NAS and not need a gateway server at all, as it seems like a single point of failure to me.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by PTide » Nov 15, 2016 4:11 pm

Gateway is needed to host the Veeam Data Mover Service. If the gateway server role is not assigned explicitly Veeam chooses it automatically so the service will be deployed anyway.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by signal » Nov 16, 2016 1:19 pm

The use case is a setup where the VMware and backup systems are in one network zone, and the production VM's are in other zones. To reach the production networks there are dedicated guest interaction proxies in the zones, but they can only be reached by the backup server.
The backup server is a virtual machine, and a set of dedicated physical servers are used as backup proxies, allowing backup traffic to flow over fibre channel as opposed to network. In an ideal setting the proxy servers would be the gateways and data movers.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by PTide » Nov 16, 2016 2:21 pm

Ok, now I see. In case with backup jobs that can be solved with the automatic gateway selection and usage of the proxy affinity feature which is available in 9.5

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[MERGED] [Feature Request] Gateway Control

Post by dale_roberts » Mar 22, 2017 3:48 pm

I would like to see the ability to define which Veeam servers can act as Gateway servers.

My use cases for this would be:
  • I could ensure only the servers with plenty of memory are used as gateway servers
  • I can ensure only the servers "close" to my storage (we have a LAN stretched across DCs so Veeam can't figure this out) act as gateways
  • I can re-use older hardware with lots of memory and have, effectively, HA protection against hardware failure by letting Veeam decide which gateway servers to use (i.e. any still up and responding) without Veeam then making the wrong choices about repository locality or the like.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by foggy » Mar 22, 2017 5:31 pm

Hi Dale, so you're after specifying a pool of gateway servers, right? Somewhat similar to the above request, so I'm merging the threads.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by dale_roberts » Mar 22, 2017 5:59 pm

foggy wrote:Hi Dale, so you're after specifying a pool of gateway servers, right? Somewhat similar to the above request, so I'm merging the threads.
Yes, If I could add specific Veeam servers to a "gateway pool" and then assign that as the gateway for my repositories that would achieve what I'm after.

Someone further up the thread mentions
In case with backup jobs that can be solved with the automatic gateway selection and usage of the proxy affinity feature which is available in 9.5
. We're running the latest Veeam so have that available but it doesn't achieve what I'm after I'm afraid. I won't bore people with the details on the whys and wherefores.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by foggy » Mar 23, 2017 1:59 pm

Understood. Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by davidrnexon » May 08, 2018 5:20 am

Hi, has there been any updates to manually specifying a group of backup repository gateways without having to use Automatic gateway selection ?

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by foggy » May 08, 2018 3:32 pm

Hi David, nothing to share at the moment.

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Re: Feature request - Several gateway servers for repository

Post by cb1ocker » May 18, 2018 3:57 pm

Adding to this thread as this seems related to this request.

I've been struggling with large agent backups from remote sites to a central data center over slow MPLS links, and I think the ability to assign multiple gateways to a repository, and also be able to select which gateway performs which tasks, would solve all of my issues. I'm using Data Domain for my repositories, but the DDBOOST dedupe happens between the gateway and the repository, so the only way I can get these backups to complete is to build a gateway server at the remote site and assign it as the gateway for the local repository. This allows dedupe to work well enough before traversing the link to allow the backups to complete. The problem with this is that other tasks related to the job also now need to use that remote gateway, such as creating synthetic fulls or performing health checks. In my case, because of the super slow links, these tasks would take days or weeks to complete in this setup.

If I could assign the remote gateway to perform backup and restore tasks, and assign a gateway local to the Data Domain to perform synthetic full creation and health checks, I would finally be able to move away from my old backup software.

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