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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby foggy » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:43 pm

A more common approach is backing up directly to some other storage.
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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:14 pm

Best practice is to backup to storage not related to production storage.
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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby baber » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:26 pm

so thanks
but while we set backup proxy role to a vm while start backup the disk of machine will be hot add to backup proxy for get backup and after that will be release disk but now while our backup proxy role has been assigned to a physical server in this mode i think can not use hot add now what will be do ?

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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:45 am

As Timothy has mentioned you will have to use directsan mode. This is configured as default. More info can be found in the userguide: https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... tml?ver=95
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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby baber » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:06 am

in below scenario can i use LAN-FREE:

my veeam backup and replication has been installed on physical server and my backup proxy role also assign to veeam backup (physical server) and i have attached an external HDD as backup proxy to veeam server but my esxi hosts connected to NAS via lan and all of my vms put on NAS in this mode can i use LAN-FREE or can not ?

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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby tdewin » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:28 am

If you use NAS and a physical server, you'r traffic will flow over the network if using Direct NFS or NBD transport mode. However, normally a production NAS (e.g Netapp) is connected to a separate Ethernet Network / separate switches and so in Direct NFS mode, the data should only flow over that specific Ethernet Network and not the production network/

I guess LAN-free is an interesting topic but for me personally, I think it is better to have a good backup stored with the correct retention and applying the 3-2-1 rule (https://www.veeam.com/blog/how-to-follo ... ation.html), instead of focusing LAN-free.
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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby baber » Wed May 09, 2018 1:37 pm

excuseme,
i confused you said don't save backups on same storage that vms has been created
now want to know if i want to use LAN-Free had to put backup proxy and backup repository on one physical server(here is veeam server) and this server had to link directly to SAN now in this mode will use LAN-Free?
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[MERGED] connect directly storage to veeam

Veeam Logoby baber » Wed May 09, 2018 1:48 pm

Dear all
Hi

my storage ability is connect directly to veeam backup server now
1- i want to know in this mode can i just add storage to my veeam server instead of vcenter or esxi host ?
2-if answer of previous question is YES in that mode can i select each vm for backup or it will get backup from lun ?

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Re: connect directly storage to veeam

Veeam Logoby PTide » Wed May 09, 2018 2:45 pm

Hi,

Is it a repository storage, or a storage that hosts VMs' disks (vmdk)? If it's a repository, then what is the purpose of having VM storage which is not connected to vcenter or ESXi?

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Re: connect directly storage to veeam

Veeam Logoby baber » Thu May 10, 2018 4:57 am

i think the correct method is connect repository directly to veeam
Is that correct ?

but actually i want use best method that not use from LAN
i have a physical veeam server and an EMC SAN. Do i have to use one SAN or 2 SAN(second san use for repository) as best practice now want to know can i use with on physical server as veeam and an EMC san as storage that hosts VMs' disks (vmdk) and Repository and my backup traffic not through from LAN?

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Re: connect directly storage to veeam

Veeam Logoby PTide » Thu May 10, 2018 1:58 pm

You can use as many SANs as you want - be it 1 or 2. However it does not make much sense to store backups on the same SAN with your VMs. If you want the traffic to stay out of LAN, you should use direct SAN method, or Hot-add (proxy appliance should also server as a repository in this case)

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Re: connect directly storage to veeam

Veeam Logoby baber » Sat May 12, 2018 7:40 am

i understand if want to through traffic from san not from LAN had to keep backups and vms on same SAN
is that correct?

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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby PTide » Sat May 12, 2018 12:36 pm

No.

With direct-SAN mode your backup proxy will read VM data directly from SAN, and you proxy must be physical in this case.
With hot-add mode your backup proxy should be a Virtual Machine on a host that is able to access the datastore where the source VM’s disks are stored. Also the proxy should also be a repository. That does not imply that proxy VM must be on the same datastore with your production VMs.

Regardless of the method that you choose, it does not make any sense to keep a VM and its backups on the same storage, because you'll lose everything in case the storage crashes.

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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby baber » Sun May 13, 2018 5:02 am

excuseme
i have 2 question:
1-My veeam Backup is a physical server that is connect directly to my SAN that my vms reside on that
on the other hand my proxy server rule has been assigned to that physical server (veeam backup server) now in this mode will my backup traffic pass through SAN or LAN?

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Re: how config backup proxy and repository for use free-LAN

Veeam Logoby foggy » Mon May 14, 2018 3:08 pm

Traffic from SAN to backup server/proxy will pass through SAN fabric and then will go to the repository server.
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