Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:08 pm

If you're not doing host level backup anyway, you can as well use Veeam agents - and stay with us :D
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby adapterer » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:30 am

Slight digression but I'm genuinely interested to know the answer as maybe it informs current trends, why would someone choose KVM over Hyper-V free? (Apart from the old " I *personally* like Windows/*nix better")
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:01 pm

Well, KVM got really hot due to all the OpenStack madness in the past years, but now that it's largely over as people woke up to reality re: OpenStack, the biggest reason to use KVM is gone indeed. I still think it has the future, but only in proprietary architectures like Nutanix AHV.
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby dellock6 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:31 pm

I (and many providers I talk to) honestly disagree with this, but I have a feeling it will become a long discussion that is not suitable to be done in public. It's not just free vs free, you also have to consider all the linux ecosystem and skills of It admins that can be leveraged with kvm, and this is a plus for many.
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:07 pm

Luca, I think we actually agree with each other, because I do consider each purpose-build service provider cloud a "proprietary architecture" too. Because it really is a different LEGO house from one to another.

Just as you noted, KVM requires certain special skills from IT admins. Nutanix is reasonably successful with AHV because they abstract you from these complexities, providing a solution "for everyone" without requiring the existing linux ecosystem and skills in-house. And service providers simply have those skills in-house already anyway - so KVM allows them to even better leverage their existing expertise to save even more money. And considering their business is about saving pennies (and fractions of pennies), no doubt they are excited to get to use something else that is "free".
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[MERGED] Planned support for RedHat Virtualization?

Veeam Logoby jlvandewalle » Tue May 30, 2017 1:28 pm

HI,

We are currently investigating the possibility to build a container park using RedHat OpenShift.
This infrastructure is build using VM running on different different type of hypervisors.

In order to keep it consistent from top to bottom the platform owner wants to use RedHat Virtualisation (RHEV) infrastructure for his container platform.

Is it possible that Veeam B&R will once support such RedHat Virtualization hypervisor?
If yes, in what timeframe?

In the meanwhile what could you advise as "temporary" solution? (Veeam agent for Linux running on hypervisor/VM?, ...)

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Re: Planned support for RedHat Virtualization?

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Tue May 30, 2017 1:55 pm

Currently there are no plans for this within Veeam Backup & Replication however you can use the Veeam Agent for Linux within the VM's as you already suggested.
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby frmounce » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:39 pm

I really am hoping that Veeam does move into KVM space per say. There is a newer company called MidFin that uses KVM as there hyper-visor. Please look further into working with this technology.
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby A1ex » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:20 pm

Hi All.

KVM support still actual due to it's usage at big virtual private cloud providers (at least in Russia). Veeam Agent is good alternative for backup, but it is not convenient for restore in virtual environment. With VBR we have possibility to restore VM with several mouse clicks from different host, but with Veeam Agent it is not possible to do in such fast manner. Does Veeam Software plan to implement fast restore to virtual environment backups from Veeam Agent? Looks like it should be not so difficult to implement, because virtual hardware is known (unlike baremetal - a lot of chipsets, HDD and network controllers etc.) and it could be easy to inject drivers and run backuped server from VBR repository. Please, give us a hope!
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:22 pm

We support fast restore to virtual environment backups from Veeam Agent for Hyper-V today, and planning to add the same capability for vSphere. However, KVM support is not currently planned. Thanks!
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby A1ex » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:12 am

Gostev thanks for answer. It will be great when backups from Agent will support fast restore to vShphere. Could it be realized by the end of 2018?
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:00 pm

Unfortunately, no - your time frame means this feature would have to be a part of Update 4 release vehicle, which it is not.
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby grouponeconsulting » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:32 pm

Veeam needs to take a close look at OnAPP - onapp.com which in their upcoming 6.0 LTS OnApp is exposing APIs for 3rd Partner backup vendors to integrate much like a Nutanix. We're using KVM VM's with OnApp (they also support Xen) and since its more of a proprietary solution like Nutanix this would be a good fit. OnApp customers make up 30% of the Cloud systems on the planet and lthe backup solutions available for KVM/XEN are crappola!
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby Martini » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:35 am

We are really waiting for KVM support, we use KVM with a custom OpenStack implementation. There are no good backup methods directly from hypervisor.
Now that there is Nutanix support, knowing there OS is based on KVM it couldn't be to hard to implement this. All OpenStack / KVM users are stuck with agent based backup which is not great for big hosting environments.
Are there any known plans to implement this in VBR?
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Re: Is Veeam doing anything in KVM space?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:13 pm

Currently, there are no plans - particularly because the following is an incorrect statement "knowing there OS is based on KVM it couldn't be to hard to implement this".

There are a couple of key differences there:
- Nutanix provides changed block tracking API that KVM lacks natively (and CBT is an absolutely essential functionality for image-level backup)
- Nutanix AHV is the single, predictable configuration vs. a big zoo which is the OpenStack world (every deployment is different, so it would be a nightmare for Veeam to support)
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