Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

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Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby yunales » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:25 pm

Hi guys,

I'm just wondering why this feature isn't implemented yet. I'm using Veeam with HP 3Par Snapshots to do the backup nice fast and easy for business ciritical apps like SQL server for SAP with VSS integration.

So far so good, but when it comes to a restore I have mainly these possibilities:
Restore whole VM with SQL server from Repository, app consitent - takes ages for TBs
Restore SQL Server from Repository, app consistent - takes ages for TBs
Restore from HP 3Par Snapshot(I hold 3 days worth of them scheuduled directly at 3par), NOT app consitent - but faster restore and better instant recovery!

so why isn't there a possibility to KEEP the app consitent HP3par snapshot after the san backup is finished for let's say 3 days for emergency restores?

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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:40 pm

Hi, simply because there were too few requests for us to add this functionality. Thanks!
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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby yunales » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:13 am

Hi Gostev,

thanks for the answer. Could you propose this to R&D then?

in the meantime is there perhaps a possibility, perhaps using a "post-backup" script, to not delete the 3par snapshot? I saw you have a powershell api and command to work with HP 3par.

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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:44 am

Our API can only control functionality that we do have in the product, and keeping storage snapshot is not currently available.
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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby SyNtAxx » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:30 pm

Is there a way to schedule storage snapshots via the veeam application/api to create application consistent snapshots to be used as recovery points out side of a scheduled backup policy? Example, I can manually create a SAN snapshot from the storage infrastructure section of Veeam (presumably application consistant?) Can that be scheduled at some interval to use as fast tier one recovery points? thanks.
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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:01 pm

I am fairly certain that one is not application-consistent, this functionality is only provided to simplify Veeam Explorer for Storage Snapshots evaluation...
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[MERGED] Feature Request: Permanent Snapshot with HPE 3PAR

Veeam Logoby Ulrichg » Tue May 17, 2016 12:41 pm

The snapshot Integration of veeam backup & Integration with HPE 3PAR StoreServ storage System works excellent.
But unfortunately the snapshot on HPE 3PAR is canceled after the veeam backup Job has finished. As the snapshots with EMC and NetApp storage are not canceled, when the backup Job has finished, I guess, that it must be very easy for veeam to realize permant snapshots with HPE 3PAR storage also.

We need these permanent snapshots with HPE storage very urgently !!!!


Please provide us the requested feature in a patch in the next weeks. We cannot wait until the next official release is available.

Thank you !
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[MERGED]: Feature Request: Snapshot Only backup for HPE 3PAR

Veeam Logoby gerhard_vilsecker » Tue May 17, 2016 12:49 pm

Hi all,
we have meanwhile a lot of customer opportunities for snapshot only backups on HPE 3PAR. We urgently need this feature in Veeam backup & replication. Please let us know about your plannings regarding this feature.

Thanks and regards

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Re: Feature Request: Permanent Snapshot with HPE 3PAR

Veeam Logoby SyNtAxx » Tue May 17, 2016 1:47 pm

I would love to be able to create\schedule\retain Application Consistent 3par Snapshots. It is touted in the product that you can recover from snapshots, why not allow it to be created\scheduled from within the Veeam application?

Thanks,

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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby foggy » Tue May 17, 2016 3:17 pm

Thanks for your feedback, guys. This functionality is on our radar, however we cannot provide any estimation on its availability.
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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby Aremac » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:59 am

Is there a technical reason this capability wasn't part of the current version. The feature disparity between storage systems is causing some issues. The "Primary storage snapshot only" as a backup repository or as secondary backup target is a feature my NetApp clients use. It really allows leveraging the capabilities of Veeam with the Storage system. It's absence for 3PAR is glaring especially for some of my clients that are transitioning from NetApp to 3PAR. I'm hoping it was just an oversight and can be added quickly as the feature already exists for the other storage vendors.
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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby foggy » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:05 pm

Hi Sam, the reason is mentioned in the first Anton's post above - too few requests for this functionality.
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[MERGED] Feature request

Veeam Logoby jan.westgard@nhn.no » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:51 pm

Hi,

We are using Veeam B&R (Version 9 SP1) with 3PAR (primay storage) and Hp StoreOnce (primary backup repository) integration. When VBR takes a storage snapshot (3PAR) as part of a VMware backup, would it be possible to retain a number of snapshots for “quick restore” or “rollback”. I guess it would need the snapshot name or ID tracking in the job’s metadata file. If the user was given the option to keep a number of snapshots when the job starts it could check the number of existing “Veeam Snaphots” and delete those exceeding the limit set in the job. Is this possible?

Thanks and kind regards,

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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:44 pm

I think your request looks more or less similar to the one discussed here. So, please, take a look at the answers provided previously.

Also, we have a commandlet using which you can create a 3PAR snapshot. Therefore, you can write and schedule a script that will take storage snapshots on whatever basis you want to.

Thanks.
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Re: Possibility to keep HP 3par Snapshots after backup?

Veeam Logoby jazzoberoi » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:24 am

Hi Guys, +1 to add this functionality to Veeam.

The way we're envisioning our infrastructure (Hyper-V) is:

- Take app consistent quick 3par snapshots every 30-60 mins from 9am to 5pm. (These to be deleted at the end of the day, so 1 day retention)
- Backup to a HP 360p server with DAS (7 day retention)
- Copy this backup to storeonce using catalyst (7 years retention)
- Replicate this backup copy to a remote DR storeonce via 'Catalyst Copy' (7 years retention)

Now, i know that the 'Catalyst Copy' feature is in the works so is not yet available. Is it safe to assume that the 3par snapshot as described above is also in the works ?
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