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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by veremin »

The scripts provided on the previous page are a bit outdated.

What happens if you try the following ones, instead:

Disable job

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Asnp VeeamPSSnapin
$TapeJob = Get-VBRTapeJob -name "Name of your Job"
Disable-VBRJob -Job $TapeJob
Enable job

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Asnp VeeamPSSnapin
$TapeJob = Get-VBRTapeJob -name "Name of your Job"
Enable-VBRJob -Job $TapeJob
Thanks.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by jdehn »

Hello Vladimir,

is there anything new about a better solution than starting a script every time? I can't see any benefits by using a script or by disabling the specific day of the week in the job options. No matter how I will do it, I have to do it manually each time or I build a script that knows the holidays and is running all the time.
For now, the missing option to consider holidays on the program side is the only thing that bother me at Veeam.. Other software can actually handle that.
Thanks a lot!

Best regards, jdehn
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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Hi Julian, thank you for the feedback, however, currently you still have to address this manually, as described in this thread above.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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No matter how I will do it, I have to do it manually each time or I build a script that knows the holidays and is running all the time.
With script and Windows Task Scheduler it is one-time operation, which requires you to look over all public holiday dates in calendar and schedule scripts to take place on needed days. However, we do understand it's a time-consuming process, indeed. Thanks.
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[MERGED] Feature Request: Copy Tape Job Holiday Calendar

Post by westCPS »

Hello!

We often get the request from customers for Tape Copy Jobs that some dates should be excluded from Copy Tape Jobs.
(Christmas and so on.)
Is there any other possibility at the moment, or only to disable the Job :-( (and hope not to reactivate after Holidays)

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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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Hi Werner, no built-in functionality for this, however you can find some hints in this thread. Thanks.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Chris J »

I am evaluating Backup Software right now and this is a feature that would be nice to have. I don't understand why this software doesn't already have this ability. We migrated from a custom system (built 25 years ago) using tape backups and it had a holiday schedule.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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Hi
This year just changed Backup Exec with Veeam based on a perceived superiority of this solution.
This thread began in 2011.
At the time the scheduling overhaul was taking the holiday exception problem into account as far as I can understand.

What went wrong?

As the last poster hinted, it should not be so difficult to implement the scripts that were suggested into a feature that exists for ages in the backup industry.

I am a tad disapointed.

I see it as a little disrespect for the customer needs.

Lian
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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No disrespect intended :D it is all about higher priority features pushing out lower priority features. Implementation is easy indeed (as for most features), but this change touches too much functionality in the product - all schedule-dependent stuff - thus requiring a major QC effort to test. This, and very low value to the product on the other hand, are the only reasons.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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I'm not sure why this is considered a "low value" feature.

Just a bit of details on my role.
I'm the group IT person in-charge of backing up dozens of remote offices with no IT staff onsite.
I rely on the normal non-IT staff to perform a tape swaps at every remote office.
Recently, I started converting the backup to Veeam and found lots of limitation with the software.

We have a policy of not storing any tapes onsite.
What I do is to arrange for a vendor to perform a tape delivery every day so that only 2 sets of tapes are onsite at any given time (previous day and today's tapes).
I draw up the entire year's tape delivery schedule at the start of the year and the daily tape usage is fairly predictable.

This becomes a problem when the individual countries have public holiday.
I won't know which day is their public holiday as I have too many countries to look after.
There won't be any staff around to swap the tapes and the tape backup will fail for that day.
The following working day, the staff will insert the following day's tape and Veeam tries to backup two days' worth of vib into a single tape.
Some times, it fits onto a tape, other times it will just run out and prompt for additional tape to be inserted.
This screws up the tape delivery schedule and additional costs will be incurred for sending/storing of extra tapes.

The rational for getting Veeam was to reduce the headache in troubleshooting various backup issues with nonsensical error codes and Veeam really does backup without much hassle.
However, small little "low value" features like this is once again causing me headache, especially when the problem is magnified as I'm managing multiple sites.
Fortunately, I've only converted a handful of sites to Veeam and the other sites are still running the competitor's backup software with the date exception feature.
I'm going to stick to the old software until something better comes along or until Veeam decides to add this feature.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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if you want to disable both backup jobs and duplication to tape jobs:

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Asnp VeeamPSSnapin 

# normal backup job names go here:
$JobNames = "Daily", "Monthly"

# Duplicate to tape jobs go here:
$TapeJobNames = "Daily Tape", "Monthly Tape"

# do normal jobs
Foreach ($Name in $JobNames)
{$Job = Get-VBRJob | ? {$_.name -eq $Name}
$Job.DisableScheduler()
}

# Do duplication jobs
Foreach ($Name in $TapeJobNames)
{$Job = Get-VBRTapeJob | ? {$_.name -eq $Name}
Disable-VBRJob -Job $Job
}
to Enable the jobs:

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Asnp VeeamPSSnapin 

# normal backup job names go here:
$JobNames = "Daily", "Monthly"

# Duplicate to tape jobs go here:
$TapeJobNames = "Daily Tape", "Monthly Tape"

# Do normal Jobs
Foreach ($Name in $JobNames)
{$Job = Get-VBRJob | ? {$_.name -eq $Name}
$Job.EnableScheduler()
}

# Do Duplication jobs
Foreach ($Name in $TapeJobNames)
{$Job = Get-VBRTapeJob | ? {$_.name -eq $Name}
Enable-VBRJob -Job $Job
}
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[MERGED] Feature Request: Public Holidays

Post by mandeep.s »

Hi,

Can this feature be implemented to include public holidays in V B&R and have the option on the job as well to say "Don't run this job on public holidays".

Thanks
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Re: Feature Request: Public Holidays

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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by veremin »

Currently, it can only achieved with script that I've mentioned earlier, but thank you for the feature request.
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[MERGED] Feature Request: Holidays (scheduling)

Post by Poweruser »

it would be nice to disable backups on public holidays.
at least for tape jobs, with a single drive where no operator will feed the drive.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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It can be achieved by script workaround.
The request is taken into account though.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Poweruser »

yes everything can done by script. but if we would love scripts we would not have to buy software because everything can be done by scripting ;-)
btw: you can add public holidays per country optional too. or at least make an option to add fixed or recurring events like 1.1. 25.12. ...
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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Right, but VBR is used in ~200 countries, it's hard to keep track on all the holidays in the world.
Anyway, your request is taken into account.
Thanks!
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Poweruser »

yes, so its not possible to include all public holidays.
but at least it would be very comfortable to just enter them manually or import outlook etc holidays. anyway just typing them in manual as backup exec allows would be fine.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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Agree. Thanks for the request.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Poweruser »

Yes, Giacomo_N is right for this case.
If you backup files which only change while people work, during holidays you loose restore points for nothing.
Also about Tapes... if you change tapes by hand, you need a hand to be there. but there is no one in office,... so it will throw errors every night..

and its terrible to get warnings on christmas :D
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[Merged] is it possible that Backup job not startet on holid

Post by GregorD »

Hi
ist possible that backup Job is not startet on our Holidays in Company. that i can set Holidays for Scheduler?
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Dima P. » 1 person likes this post

Hello GregorD.

I've merged your post to existing thread and added your vote to this feature request. Unfortunately, there is no such functionality (except using custom Power Shell scripting to start your backup jobs on the specific days). Thanks!
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Poweruser »

Another Holiday Problem:
If you have a Tape Job for Mo-Fr and e.g. last Wednesday the Tape was missing, the Tape job hangs infinite and blocks all other jobs.
Okay i can select the source job checkbox to prevent blocking.. but there seems no timeout while waiting for the tape?
the job should terminate itself after tape is missing and it is running out of the window/timeout.
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[MERGED] Add Vacation Days for Tape Jobs

Post by Poweruser »

As on every Holiday its an Admin Day.... alert.. please insert tape.

no i don´t want to insert a tape. there is no one there... but... software you should know public holidays...
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by veremin »

Thank you for the feedback; appreciated. For now you can stick to PS workaround provided earlier in this thread. Thanks!
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Poweruser »

Yes that could be a solution. But please add this easy feature asap :-(
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by Fatboy40 »

Another request for this to be directly added into the application / GUI for jobs please, so that as others have said we don't get hoards of e-mails when on holiday and unnecessary failed jobs effecting KPI's etc., thank you.
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

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yizhar wrote: Jul 26, 2013 1:30 pm Hi.

Just a small question:

Why at all do you want/need to disable the backup during holiday? Why not let it run?

Yizhar
If you have a Single Tape Drive there is no one who changes the tape...
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Re: Public Holiday Date Exceptions

Post by moctad_harry »

Any progress on this one please?

All kind of Veeam customers get stung without this feature. SMBs with removable media like tapes and ext' HDDs as well as customers with just disk backups as their data retention is artificially lowered by not being able to exclude it on certain days.

No workarounds please.
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