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Run time linux proxy server

Post by smile_dav » May 24, 2012 11:06 am

I'm not sure if anybody has requested this before, I know for a fact some people have called for allowing linux servers to be proxy servers, but what about runtime deployed ones? It only make sense as this would mean you won't have to worry about backing up a proxy server itself during small backup windows?

Just an idea.

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by Gostev » May 24, 2012 7:38 pm

Run time or not, there are a number of reasons why we decided not to pursue Linux based proxies. We are, however, making some improvement in 6.1 to remove some final obstacles around reusing your existing Windows servers as backup proxies. Thanks!

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by lobo519 » Jul 26, 2012 2:15 pm

Gostev wrote:Run time or not, there are a number of reasons why we decided not to pursue Linux based proxies. We are, however, making some improvement in 6.1 to remove some final obstacles around reusing your existing Windows servers as backup proxies. Thanks!
So no Linux proxies in the near future?

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by foggy » Jul 26, 2012 2:24 pm

No. A bit more details here.

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by smile_dav » Jul 30, 2012 3:28 am 1 person likes this post

Well this is still on my and many of my client's dream lists. Those damn Windows licenses...

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by Gostev » Jul 30, 2012 8:39 am

Just use existing Windows VMs as your proxies, instead of deploying new.

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by J1mbo » Jul 31, 2012 8:15 am

smile_dav wrote:Well this is still on my and many of my client's dream lists. Those damn Windows licenses...
Didn't I read somewhere that Hyper-V Server could be used for this?

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by Vitaliy S. » Jul 31, 2012 9:45 am

Any Windows server can be used as a backup proxy.

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Re: [POLL] OS for Veeam B&R management server?

Post by mrt » Sep 07, 2012 3:59 pm 1 person likes this post

when can hot-add users expect a linux based virtual appliance to replace the Windows vm they need to license and maintain? a guy can dream... :mrgreen:

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[MERGED] Proxy at remote location

Post by mikegodwin » Oct 12, 2012 12:42 am

Is it correct that in order to have a proxy at the remote replication site, I need a Windows VM to run the proxy? There is no way to use Linux or a virtual appliance?

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by Gostev » Oct 12, 2012 7:43 pm

Correct.

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Re: Run time linux proxy server

Post by CvBarney » Oct 13, 2012 8:22 pm 1 person likes this post

That's too bad. Not the whole world is based on Windows (thankfully!), and therefore I like the virtual appliance approach from VMware. Very easy to deploy new products (download, configure and running) and no additional OS licenses. We manage customers with large linux based environments and the only Windows servers are from management products or application dependency. But now we have to spend additional Windows licenses when we need another Veeam proxy, and not every client appreciates that. And no, we don't have spare Windows servers who can act as a proxy!

So I hope you change your mind about this in the (near) future. A whole Windows server for only transferring data is insane, look to that large (memory/disk) footprint. That can be done more efficiently, and a very small striped Linux server will be the best approach. And your security counter point is bogus: use the standard package manager from the distro to keep up to date and only deliver your small piece of proxy software.
But that's my point of view...

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[MERGED] Backup Proxy as an OVA

Post by bradclark » Feb 11, 2013 6:59 pm 3 people like this post

Instead of having a dedicated Windows Server VM to act as a Backup Proxy Agent, are there any plans for Veeam to create a lightweight Linux type Backup Proxy Appliance (OVA) that can be easily deployed at sites?

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[MERGED] Suggestion for Backup Proxy

Post by jfrancis » Nov 15, 2013 5:21 am 1 person likes this post

This may have already been suggested - I had an idea for an alternate, simpler approach to a backup proxy. Instead of bolting onto Windows (which is brilliant, I might add), what about a virtual appliance? Something really cut down, a thin linux appliance or something.

The reason for this is - we backup around 80 VMs each night, and to do so we have two dedicated, beefed up Windows servers acting as proxies. This obviously comes with the extra cost of Windows licensing, and the fat overheads of Windows. Also, we receive offsite backups from some of our clients, who may only have a single VM running on a host. Of course, the VM can't act as a proxy to backup itself, and the client doesn't want to pay for an additional windows license. This would fit perfectly in this scenario!

Veeam could even include the ability to automatically spin up preconfigured proxy appliances as required, leaving them shut down during peak hours and conserving precious RAM and CPU resources.

Just a thought :)

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Re: [MERGED] Suggestion for Backup Proxy

Post by foggy » Nov 15, 2013 6:13 am

Jonathon, you're correct assuming that this has already been requested before. However you're not correct saying that "the VM can't act as a proxy to backup itself" as Veeam B&R proxy server can perfectly back itself up. What proxy VM cannot do is hotadd itself, so it can be backed up using network mode only (please search for existing discussions for details).

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