Trying to truncate old backups

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 07, 2014 8:18 pm this post

Migrating from one set of datastores (VMware) to another so I setup new jobs to start backing up new datastores. I thought I would be able to slowly truncate old restore points by changing the retention number and running the old job, however this is not working and just leaves the same number of restore points as before running the job. Currently, the old datastores have no VMs on them and I have turned off the 'remove deleted VMs from backup' setting on the old jobs. My normal retention is 31 days and I'd like to keep around that number between new and old jobs until I have 31 restore points on new jobs to save repository space.

Anyone know how I can do this since the retention policy doesn't seem to affect it?

Post by **Vitaliy S.** » Jan 07, 2014 8:48 pm this post

Hello,

kbassham wrote:however this is not working and just leaves the same number of restore points as before running the job.

Can you please tell me what backup job mode are you using?

Thank you!

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 07, 2014 9:10 pm this post

Reversed incrimental

Post by **foggy** » Jan 07, 2014 9:22 pm this post

Retention should apply right after the successful run of the job. Since VMs backed up by the job do not exist anymore, I wonder what status does the job have after being executed?

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 07, 2014 9:25 pm this post

it says successful...

Job started
Building VM list
Job finished

Post by **Vitaliy S.** » Jan 08, 2014 8:31 am this post

How many VRB files do you have on the repository? BTW, what is your current retention policy setting for the old jobs?

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 08, 2014 3:26 pm this post

23 VRBs, retention set to 20 restore points.

Post by **Vitaliy S.** » Jan 08, 2014 3:28 pm this post

How many times did you run your job without VMs? Three? What is the size of the latest VRB files?

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 08, 2014 3:50 pm this post

I have ran it a few times, I don't remember how many.

All the VRB files are between 45-60GB in size with the VBK at 600GB. The 'date modified' attribute of the VBM and VBK files has not changed since the last time it did any actually backup work.

Post by **Vitaliy S.** » Jan 09, 2014 8:20 am this post

Hmm....ok! Let me try to reproduce this scenario in my lab, meanwhile can you please adjust the retention policy settings to 19 and run your job? Do you still have 23 VRBs?

Post by **veremin** » Jan 09, 2014 9:31 am this post

I'm wondering whether the corresponding restore points are even reflected in the backup console. So, can you go to Backups -> Disk -> select given job and see how many restore points are shown there?

Thanks.

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 09, 2014 8:02 pm this post

Yes, they are there. Besides the number of VBRs that is how I'm validating the number of restore points.

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 09, 2014 8:38 pm this post

v.Eremin wrote:I'm wondering whether the corresponding restore points are even reflected in the backup console. So, can you go to Backups -> Disk -> select given job and see how many restore points are shown there?

Thanks.

more info... if I delete the 3 oldest VRBs and re-run the job it still says I have 24 restore points.

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 09, 2014 8:50 pm this post

In the disk view, I removed this job's backups from 'backup'. Rescanned repo, it imports backup, still says there are 24 restore points.

Post by **veremin** » Jan 09, 2014 9:28 pm this post

What option you were using while deleting restore points? "Delete from disk" or "Delete from backups"? Thanks.

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 09, 2014 10:24 pm this post

v.Eremin wrote:What option you were using while deleting restore points? "Delete from disk" or "Delete from backups"? Thanks.

I deleted some VRBs files from explorer, nothing via Veeam Console. I removed the backup by "delete from backups".

Post by **veremin** » Jan 10, 2014 9:12 am this post

If you delete corresponding restore points manually, this changes won't be reflected in backup console, as the information regarding RPs is stored in metadata file. I'd suggest opening a ticket with our support team and letting them investigate why retention policy hasn't been applied properly.

Thanks.

Post by **foggy** » Jan 10, 2014 11:21 am this post

I'm also along the line of contacting support. Could be a database issue.

kbassham · Post by **kbassham** » Jan 10, 2014 3:54 pm this post

thank you for your help thus far

Post by **veremin** » Jan 10, 2014 3:57 pm this post

You're welcome. Once you open a ticket, please, post its number here for the convenience of future readers. Thanks.

DaFresh · Post by **DaFresh** » Jan 13, 2014 4:06 pm this post

Hello,

In the way I would like to do the same thing with my archive jobs, could you please post the end of the story ? I hope it's a happy end ...

Thanks in advance,

Cédric

Post by **Vitaliy S.** » Jan 14, 2014 9:50 am this post

Cédric, if you adjust the retention policy settings, old restore points should be removed. Do you see a different situation?

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