VBR v13 GUI Performance

[Andreas Neufert]

Hi everyone,
we are carefully listening to all the feedback.
We are investing in the GUI and in the WebUI to bring them to modern technologies and ensure a secure processing. As Hannes shared we changed a lot in v13 to ensure Linux/VSA compatibility, work on scalability and to apply new standards that allow our Windows processing to be better prepared for the future. You will see some cool feature in 13.1 that will help with the day to day operations significantly.
If you have an impact we will look into this and the above shared support cases will help. If WebUI or Console does not matter.

And yes, you will see major improvements in the next updates for the WebUI. 13.1 will have additional new capabilities around our cloud that are based on that technology, too. VeeamON events will bring the official announcements and I suggest to join the virtual sessions.

Best regards,
Andreas

[horsemenl]

This reminds me of when VMWare went from the desktop client to a web UI. It was AWFUL and extremely slow in comparison. VEEAM is going down the same path. VMWare eventually got the web interface working well and it's now pretty snappy.

I have been disappointed in the performance of the new UI for VEEAM. Let's hope they get it worked out faster than VMWare did

[m.novelli]

I still hate the web GUI from ESXi / vCenter

Year after year it's harder to see the icon if a VM is Powered ON or OFF or work on a long list of VM

Definitely a step back from the Windows Client

Marco

[ksimon]

@m.novelli,

TBH, I think that Gostev was part of the problem. There were plenty of times that issues were reported here and Gostev's response was similar to, "We decided to do it this way so you'll just have to deal with it"

So I am not the only one who saw that.

[hrai]

Just my two cents (to avoid this becoming a piling-on-fest), I haven't noticed any particular sluggishness in the v13 console vs. the v12 console. We did start fresh on v13 VSAs rather than upgrading our v12 Windows servers, so there could be something to "fresh small database vs. old large database", but I haven't seen a baked-in slowness at this time. Overall I've been fairly pleased that the VBR Console hasn't changed much since v12.

I also installed VBR Appliance v13 from scratch and on my end the GUI is super responsive and faster than our v12 install on Windows. I also noticed that vCPUs don't hit the high threshold we were hitting in v13 (used to stay above 99% while jobs ran). Having said this our v12 Win VM had 16GB of RAM and 4 vCPUs assigned to it. For the V13 appliance I assigned 32GB of RAM and 8 vCPUs which is a lot IMHO. I am still not happy that v13 GUI is missing tons of functionality and I have using the thick client for now. I hope in the next few months all that missing functionality is added.

[ksimon]

Hello,
the web UI is currently "in preview" (there is a popup at first login). That is where we focus on to get all functionality in there.
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Best regards
Hannes

So, think Windows Control Panel + Settings App?

[HannesK]

yes, similar like that. Also VMware started similar (well, there was Adobe Flash in between). But we hope to get a fully functional web UI faster than the examples from Windows & VMware.

[hrai]

I also installed VBR Appliance v13 from scratch and on my end the GUI is super responsive and faster than our v12 install on Windows. I also noticed that vCPUs don't hit the high threshold we were hitting in v13 (used to stay above 99% while jobs ran). Having said this our v12 Win VM had 16GB of RAM and 4 vCPUs assigned to it. For the V13 appliance I assigned 32GB of RAM and 8 vCPUs which is a lot IMHO. I am still not happy that v13 GUI is missing tons of functionality and I have using the thick client for now. I hope in the next few months all that missing functionality is added.

Btw I meant that the Wed GUI is fast on v13. I only use the Web GUI to monitor my jobs or do restores. The only time I used the Windows Console thick client was to configure the jobs since some things cannot be configured on the Web GUI. I just tried running it on my Windows 11 laptop and it does run super slow as others mentioned. I have using the Windows console though and prefer to use the Web UI since it is much nicer and modern and matches the VDC for M365. Hopefully in the next year they manage to add all the functionailty to the Web GUI so we never have to use the slow thick client.

[RubinCompServ]

But if the GUI is essentially a dead product, when can we expect a Web UI with feature parity?

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