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VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by brupnick » May 28, 2015 1:34 pm

Good morning-

I just received word about the integration of EMC storage snapshots into VBR v9, which is great news. However, our VMAX is behind a VPLEX, so will this configuration be supported?

Thanks!

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by foggy » May 28, 2015 2:29 pm

Brian, no - just as stated in press release, only EMC VNX and VNXe storage arrays will be supported in this release.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by mandarin » Jun 12, 2015 6:44 pm

We have a VNX behind a VPLEX. Would this configuration be supported? Thanks.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Gostev » Jun 17, 2015 8:16 pm

VPLEX support is not planned, at least for the initial release.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Andreas Neufert » Jun 17, 2015 10:27 pm

mandarin wrote:We have a VNX behind a VPLEX. Would this configuration be supported? Thanks.
No, as VPLEX abstract the storage behind it compleatly. To support VNX behind a vPLEX we need to support the VPLEX.

+1 for this request as I see more VMAX and VNX behind VPLEX then direct connected without a virtualization software. As well common is an EMC storage gehind IBM SVC.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by clintljohnson » Jun 18, 2015 3:29 pm

+1 for VNX behind VPLEX. VAAI still works with VPLEX in place, however unrelated, I would think storage snapshots are also possible, please try to work this in your roadmap since EMC is onboard with helping.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by mandarin » Jun 18, 2015 3:31 pm

Gostev and Andreas, thank you both for your responses.

Yes, we believe VPLEX is a very important component in our infrastructure, and would be very happy if Veeam added support for it.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by emachabert » Aug 27, 2015 11:45 am

This is a must have because many cutomers have VNX behind Vplex....
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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by dellock6 » Aug 27, 2015 2:01 pm 2 people like this post

Eric, would you try to give us a percentage? Are we talking about 10%, 50%, 90%? Because at least in my personal experience, the majority by far of VNX users have not their array behind a VPLEX.
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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by emachabert » Aug 28, 2015 7:53 am

Sure !
Customers with less than two arrays are out of concern here :lol:

When we deal with our EMC customers about business continuity, 80% of them are using Vplex. The remaining 20% are using either Datacore, Falconstore or SVC.

Just an example, the last EMC project we've won this summer. 6 VNX arrays (3 on each site) clustered through Vplex.
The customer is willing to engage with Veeam (curently a TSM Customer) because of future VNX support.

I am currently at another customer location, doing a Veeam VBR audit, they are using vPlex in front of VNX and thought they could have snapshot support in the upcoming release.

I totaly understand Vplex is not VNX and it add a layer on top of the storage, I just hope you are working on it because we have a lot of them in the wild
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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by dellock6 » Aug 28, 2015 8:26 pm

Thanks for the feedback, appreciated.
As Anton said, v9 will support plain VNX (and VNXe), but any vote or feedback counts for future enhancements. Not a promise, but a confirmation that your voice has been heard.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Andreas Neufert » Aug 31, 2015 8:35 am

It really depends on which customer size you focus. As there is no Active/Active Split cluster possibility at VNX, enterprise customers tend to use Vplex, SVC and others to achive this. Specifically in Europe these Mirror solutions are more common than in the US.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Daveyd » Sep 30, 2015 1:28 pm

Another request here for VPLEX support. We just purchased 2 VNX arrays with VPLEX to run Active/Active Datacenters and would REALLY love Veeam snapshot integration support!!

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Tjuls » Oct 12, 2015 8:45 am

+1

This is starting to get critical for us, as we are a world wide company with 24/7 operation, we need our production servers to not get affected by backups.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Daveyd » Sep 23, 2016 12:21 pm

With Veeam 9.5 not officially supporting EMC's VPLEX in front of a VNX for storage based snapshots, is VPLEX on the roadmap? Working for a Hospital, uptime is extremely critical therefore we invested in VPLEX over a year ago to stretch our clusters between 2 Datacenters. Traditional Veeam backups work well with VPLEX presented storage from the VNX, now if only storage based snapshots would be supported since they are currently supported with VNX. :)

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by foggy » Sep 23, 2016 12:24 pm

Currently there are no short-term plans to add support for VPLEX, as far as I know.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Daveyd » Sep 23, 2016 2:24 pm

Bummer.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Andreas Neufert » Sep 26, 2016 9:00 am

I think the plan is to look at Dell and what they do with the EMC storage. The decision will be made afterwards.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by ssmith » Dec 02, 2016 11:31 am

What if it's VNX5300 and VNX5500 under the VPLEX? Can it be configured to go directly to that? (SAN Explorer)

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Andreas Neufert » Dec 02, 2016 12:48 pm

BfSS will not work. we see vPLEX volume and can not bring this together with the snapshot on the storage.

As the volume is 1:1 forwarded by vPlex you maybe have luck with VESS. This will be unsupported somehow.... and you have to zone the vnx to the esxi hosts as well. I would then create a very small (40MB) helper volume that you can map from VNX to esxi host for testing the connectivity.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by eschek » Dec 12, 2016 5:56 am

+1 for VNX behind vplex!

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by Vladimir_AUS » Jul 24, 2017 5:36 am

Any news on VPLEX support?

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by foggy » Jul 26, 2017 12:21 pm

No news at the moment.

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by valentin.ciobanu » Jun 07, 2018 10:32 am

+1 for VNX behind vplex!

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Re: VBR v9 - EMC Snapshots with VPLEX

Post by thmir » Apr 24, 2019 10:57 am

+1 for DellEMC Unity behind VPLEX!

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