-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Yes, this is still on our radar.
-
- Service Provider
- Posts: 111
- Liked: 21 times
- Joined: Dec 22, 2011 9:12 am
- Full Name: Marcel
- Location: Lucerne, Switzerland
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
+1 for this request
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 58
- Liked: 9 times
- Joined: Mar 12, 2012 8:18 pm
- Contact:
-
- Service Provider
- Posts: 11
- Liked: never
- Joined: Feb 24, 2011 2:51 am
- Full Name: Peter Cronwright
- Contact:
-
- Service Provider
- Posts: 13
- Liked: 3 times
- Joined: Jan 28, 2015 9:52 pm
- Full Name: Daniel Hadland
- Contact:
-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
If you post "+1", then it would be highly appreciated to also elaborate on the particular use case you're after. This would help us a lot in discussing this feature for our next updates. Thanks!
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 411
- Liked: 31 times
- Joined: Nov 21, 2014 10:05 pm
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Mine (and I think most common) use case is that operator that is using vbr console does not have admin rights to that server/computer...
Bed?! Beds for sleepy people! Lets get a kebab and go to a disco!
MS MCSA, MCITP, MCTS, MCP
VMWare VCP5-DCV
Veeam VMCE
MS MCSA, MCITP, MCTS, MCP
VMWare VCP5-DCV
Veeam VMCE
-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Would using Enterprise Manager be a solution in your case?
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 411
- Liked: 31 times
- Joined: Nov 21, 2014 10:05 pm
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Nope.
Bed?! Beds for sleepy people! Lets get a kebab and go to a disco!
MS MCSA, MCITP, MCTS, MCP
VMWare VCP5-DCV
Veeam VMCE
MS MCSA, MCITP, MCTS, MCP
VMWare VCP5-DCV
Veeam VMCE
-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Restore operation in B&R console requires using drivers, that cannot be enabled if you're not local admin of the computer, but thanks for your FR.
-
- Service Provider
- Posts: 11
- Liked: never
- Joined: Feb 24, 2011 2:51 am
- Full Name: Peter Cronwright
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
+1
We need non-Administrators to be able to launch the VBR Console on a Remote Desktop Server, they do not need to do the restores mostly, just Manage or Report on Backup Operations.
If restores require local administrator rights then perhaps a message can be displayed that they need to reopen VBR Console with Administration rights, or VBR Console can relaunch itself asking for Administration rights.
We need non-Administrators to be able to launch the VBR Console on a Remote Desktop Server, they do not need to do the restores mostly, just Manage or Report on Backup Operations.
If restores require local administrator rights then perhaps a message can be displayed that they need to reopen VBR Console with Administration rights, or VBR Console can relaunch itself asking for Administration rights.
-
- Novice
- Posts: 3
- Liked: never
- Joined: Jan 15, 2018 10:48 am
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
I would like to +1 this as well. As for my use case, we have a terminal server where nobody has admin rights that we would like to enable to console on. The server itself does not have anything to do with running the B&R jobs so any restore operations that would be initiated via this console f.e. would be expected to run on the main B&R server. This would also give us a chance to manage multiple installations from one terminal server. I see this topic is a bit older, but we recently discussed this with our regional rep and a technical colleague he brought onsite with him and they suggested to add my comments to this thread.
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 377
- Liked: 86 times
- Joined: Mar 17, 2015 9:50 pm
- Full Name: Aemilianus Kehler
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
+1 been 2 years, where's the feature?
-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Hi Aemilianus, the architecture discussed above is still the same, but thanks for pushing! If only monitoring/reporting/basic management is required, then Enterprise Manager/Veeam ONE or Veeam Availability Console (for service providers) can help here.
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 93
- Liked: 54 times
- Joined: Dec 28, 2017 3:22 pm
- Full Name: Michael Weissenbacher
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
+1 from me
We would like to give the customer an RDP login on the B&R host where he can do restores himself. But he shouldn't have local Admin privileges as he could leverage them to stop services, delete the backups at the OS level, ...
We would like to give the customer an RDP login on the B&R host where he can do restores himself. But he shouldn't have local Admin privileges as he could leverage them to stop services, delete the backups at the OS level, ...
-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Michael, would using Enterprise Manager be a solution here? Initiating the restore procedure from the backup console does require local admin privileges due to working with drivers and backup mount operations.
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 93
- Liked: 54 times
- Joined: Dec 28, 2017 3:22 pm
- Full Name: Michael Weissenbacher
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Hello Vitaly, thanks for your reply. I think Enterprise Manager would do the job. But we have many small customers with just 2-3 VMs which are backed up and installing Enterprise Manager on all of their systems sounds like a real overkill for me just to enable them being able to do restores themselves. Also we are using VAC and i heard that VAC might not play well in combination with Enterprise Manager. For the moment I think we will take the route of installing VBR Console on one Windows Client where the user has local Admin privileges.
-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Michael, VAC can fully co-exist with Enterprise Manager, not sure where this rumor comes from. Moreover, VAC can monitor the health of EM installation. What kind of restores do your clients usually ask for? FLR from VMs and Agents?
-
- Lurker
- Posts: 1
- Liked: never
- Joined: Apr 19, 2018 10:49 am
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Any updates on this feature request? A staff member of the support team told me that you need Administrator priviliges because if you do a restore the files are temporarely restored on the machine where the B&R console is installed. I can understand that you need Admin priviliges in this case though I think the more common use of the console is to check and/or start backups manually. In this case there's no need for Admin priviliges. Since it's very common (or at least it should be) that even the network/backup administrator doesn't work with Admin priviliges on his local machine (maybe he doesn't even know the credentials of the local Admin) you cannot use the B&R console to check the status/settings of your backups remotely.
-
- VP, Product Management
- Posts: 27368
- Liked: 2799 times
- Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am
- Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Hello, thanks for sharing your FR and use case. Right now, we recommend using Veeam ONE or Enterprise Manager (web-based) for monitoring and simple job management for the backup admin.
-
- Novice
- Posts: 7
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Oct 04, 2011 7:22 am
- Full Name: Anton van der Linden
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
+1 for me.
As soon as an engineer is local administrator on the VBR management server he can grant himself all the rights he need.
For example become an Veeam Administrator. Losing all the benefits of roles in the Veeam.
As soon as an engineer is local administrator on the VBR management server he can grant himself all the rights he need.
For example become an Veeam Administrator. Losing all the benefits of roles in the Veeam.
-
- Service Provider
- Posts: 1
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Nov 21, 2016 11:43 am
- Full Name: Mark Parrett
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
This is a real let down in the capability of Veeam - we have dedicated staff to check backups and we dont and shouldn't have to make them a local admin on their own machine to either remote consoles to run the VBR console that would only have view only rights - our guys would need to be able to check job history to see if issues have occurred previously etc and its not that easy in Enterprise manager to see that sort of detail.
It doesn't feel like VBR scales out that well when you have large environments and hundreds of machines to check every day.
You have added Veeam view only users but you need to be a local admin to run the console - really !
Come on Veeam its time to get this feature request sorted.
It doesn't feel like VBR scales out that well when you have large environments and hundreds of machines to check every day.
You have added Veeam view only users but you need to be a local admin to run the console - really !
Come on Veeam its time to get this feature request sorted.
-
- Lurker
- Posts: 1
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Jul 17, 2018 10:01 am
- Full Name: Aaron Linscott
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
+1
We have a helpdesk full of techies who check backups daily from a Citrix published app and we need them to be able to access the Veeam B&R Console without giving them local administrator on the Citrix Servers.
That would cause all sorts of havoc!
Veeam need to get this sorted ASAP, it's ridiculous and even the techies on the support team know it!
We have a helpdesk full of techies who check backups daily from a Citrix published app and we need them to be able to access the Veeam B&R Console without giving them local administrator on the Citrix Servers.
That would cause all sorts of havoc!
Veeam need to get this sorted ASAP, it's ridiculous and even the techies on the support team know it!
-
- Chief Product Officer
- Posts: 31798
- Liked: 7297 times
- Joined: Jan 01, 2006 1:01 am
- Location: Baar, Switzerland
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
One big reason was file level recovery, which needed local admin permissions to mount backup locally. This particular requirement should be removed in Update 4 due to slightly changed FLR architecture, potentially allowing us to remove the requirement in question.
-
- Enthusiast
- Posts: 68
- Liked: 4 times
- Joined: May 09, 2017 6:33 pm
- Full Name: Mike G
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Is Update 4 scheduled to be sometime this year?
Gostev wrote:One big reason was file level recovery, which needed local admin permissions to mount backup locally. This particular requirement should be removed in Update 4 due to slightly changed FLR architecture, potentially allowing us to remove the requirement in question.
-
- Veeam Software
- Posts: 21138
- Liked: 2141 times
- Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am
- Full Name: Alexander Fogelson
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Yes, it is planned for this fall.
-
- Chief Product Officer
- Posts: 31798
- Liked: 7297 times
- Joined: Jan 01, 2006 1:01 am
- Location: Baar, Switzerland
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
I just don't remember if there was possibly other blockers too besides FLR - need to reincarnate the discussion about this requirement (already did).
-
- Influencer
- Posts: 17
- Liked: 2 times
- Joined: Nov 01, 2017 1:24 pm
- Full Name: Danny Murphy
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Is there any update on whether admin rights will still be needed in v10 release this year?
-
- Veeam Software
- Posts: 21138
- Liked: 2141 times
- Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am
- Full Name: Alexander Fogelson
- Contact:
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Veeam B&R 9.5 U4 coming out soon will not remove the local admin rights requirement from the console, this is planned for the later release.
-
- Influencer
- Posts: 12
- Liked: 1 time
- Joined: Nov 10, 2017 9:10 am
- Full Name: veeamuser001
Re: Veeam B&R console needs admin rights to start
Hello Foggy,
Any idea to when Veeam Console will be released without the need for "local admin"-privileges?
Also to everyone else, how do you guys made things work and keep it secure at the same time?
Any idea to when Veeam Console will be released without the need for "local admin"-privileges?
Also to everyone else, how do you guys made things work and keep it secure at the same time?
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Kirassant, NightBird and 161 guests