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Veeam V10

Post by crackocain » May 21, 2017 10:59 pm

Hi.

I want to ask about new features.

-Support for physical computers backup by fully integrating of our agents for Windows and Linux into the Veeam Backup & Replication.
Agents deployed and controlled in Free Version either?

-Veeam CDP, the new Continuous Data Protection
Is this meaning of Real Time Replication? or Backup?

And finally, in v10 we're extending our existing scale-out backup repository with the new Archive Tier,
Only ScaleOut Backup Repository? Are we backing up Azure Blob Storage directly?

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Only Fibre Channel? SAS interface is also supported?

SureBackup Exclusion coming this version?
We are excluding virtual machines and virtual disks from backup job. Why in the Surebackup jobs VM's can not be excluded. This is not make sense.
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by vmniels » May 21, 2017 11:14 pm

-Support for physical computers backup by fully integrating of our agents for Windows and Linux into the Veeam Backup & Replication.
Agents deployed and controlled in Free Version either?
This is not defined yet and will be made clear later on towards the release.
-Veeam CDP, the new Continuous Data Protection
Is this meaning of Real Time Replication? or Backup?
Yes, this means you can replicate as many times as you want. This doen't work for backup yet within VMware.
And finally, in v10 we're extending our existing scale-out backup repository with the new Archive Tier,
Only ScaleOut Backup Repository? Are we backing up Azure Blob Storage directly?
You will be able to add Azure Blob / Amazon S3&Glacier storage to a Scale-Out repository so it can be used as an archive tier. We won't backup anything from Azure blob storage, only send data to it.
IBM Storwize Storage Snapshots
Only Fibre Channel? SAS interface is also supported?
This will become also more clear towards the release as this is currently in development.
SureBackup Exclusion coming this version?
We are excluding virtual machines and virtual disks from backup job. Why in the Surebackup jobs VM's can not be excluded. This is not make sense.
You can use an application group to select the specific VM's you want within the group - in this way you can "exclude" VM's. More info can be found in our user guide.
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by mongie » May 22, 2017 1:55 am

Did I see somewhere that V10 is expected in Q3 2017?

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Re: Veeam V10

Post by Mike Resseler » May 22, 2017 5:24 am

Hi Alex,

It is ready when it is ready :-). But Q3 2017, not sure where you saw that but that doesn't look like correct to be honest. A bit too early ;-)

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Re: Veeam V10

Post by crackocain » May 22, 2017 6:59 am

Blob Question: Sorry my bad. Are we add Azure Blob storage to backup repositories? For example customer don't want cloud connect then this option can be useful. Not only archieve tier.

VAIO Question: This question may be vmware related but i dont know. If we use VAIO then which vmware license is necessary? Storage-Policy Based Management feature? So Vsphere Standart, Enterprise and Enterprise Plus owners using this feature?

Surebackup Question: Yeah i know application group but not the same thing. Because one application group object failed then all surebackup jobs cancelled. I'm saying cancelled not running next vm! Are you say it is the same thing? Too many people want to this feature vmware-vsphere-f24/is-it-possible-to-ex ... t6668.html
But youre saying Application Group is an option. Yeah we all know Application group but it is not the same thing!!!
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by vmniels » May 22, 2017 7:16 am

Azure Blob storage can be added to a Scale-Out Backup repo which is part of their own infrastructure, not specificly targetted at Cloud Connect. However it can't be a main backup target, only for archiving right now.

In regards to the license, this is indeed a VMware related question.

In regards to the SureBackup question, your example makes sense indeed and as you noticed in the other thread is this something that is tracked as a feature request to be added later on. This wasn't clear to me in your first post as I thought you used linked jobs only.
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by crackocain » May 22, 2017 8:34 am

Azure Blob Archieving: Are we specify restore points or backup date?

For example 1 weeks after or 15 restore points after use Azure Archieve Tier?
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by Mike Resseler » May 22, 2017 8:38 am

There will be a policy based decision mechanism.

As far as I know today, it will move (or copy, depending on your choice) after X time or after X percent of the primary storage is used. But since we are still work in progress, any feedback on how you would want to implement it in your environment (and why) is very much appreciated!

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Re: Veeam V10

Post by mongie » May 22, 2017 9:56 pm

Is there a specific reason why it's been integrated into the SOBR feature rather than just allowing you to add it as a repository? Seems like a complicated way to do it.

My dream scenario is that it's just another type of repository target, and you introduce a feature that allows for making backup copies from other backup copies.

e.g.

Primary Backup from Source > Archive Backup on Local Disk > Archive Backup on Azure

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Re: Veeam V10

Post by vmniels » May 22, 2017 10:05 pm

This can be done by using backup copy job. However within sobr it will move the data according your retention policy/settings hence why it is introduced there.
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by dellock6 » May 22, 2017 11:43 pm

The other reason is to avoid customers to use an object storage, which is really good at streaming data, to be used for primary backups, that have a more random IO pattern, and even more (and this counts also for backup copy jobs, not just backup jobs) there is a backup chain that may be updated even daily, and object storage are not designed to update files in place by only the changed blocks. An update in an object is a complete rewrite of the entire file. Think about the daily merge of a forever forward incremental backup done against an object storage, or the synthetic full of a backup copy.
For this reason, the archive tier will work by offloading GFS files (which are full independent files) or entire aged chains (think an entire week of a regular backup copy with weekly synthetic), so that the move to the archive tier is a file copy, clean and fully sequential. The offload is not managed by the backup copy, but by the configured retention.
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by vmniels » May 23, 2017 9:25 am

crackocain wrote:VAIO Question: This question may be vmware related but i dont know. If we use VAIO then which vmware license is necessary? Storage-Policy Based Management feature? So Vsphere Standart, Enterprise and Enterprise Plus owners using this feature?
FYI VAIO is available in standard and higher but not in Essentials editions.
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Re: Veeam V10

Post by Delo123 » May 23, 2017 12:10 pm 1 person likes this post

VAIO filtering Replication would potentially give us Storage Vendor A to storage Vendor B near real-time replication, correct? Can we have a (Veeam) party?

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Re: Veeam V10

Post by Mike Resseler » May 23, 2017 12:28 pm 1 person likes this post

Correct. I leave the decision for a party up to you ;-)

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Re: Veeam V10

Post by skrause » May 23, 2017 1:18 pm 1 person likes this post

The party was on Thursday in New Orleans. :mrgreen:
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