What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup server?

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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby tholyoak » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:48 pm

It's not the files in the external storage I'm worried about (which are being backed up separately), it's the settings, drivers, etc., both in Windows and VMware that make the VM talk to the storage.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby tholyoak » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:43 pm

I ended up playing it safe and just did a full backup of the VM using the free version of Veeam on another computer. This will make for a simple restore if it's ever needed, as well.
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[MERGED] Disaster recovery question?

Veeam Logoby danswartz » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:32 pm

I've read various KB articles about how to restore VCSA if you don't have another Vcenter server. I actually had my VCSA appliance get corrupted (my fault) and went to restore it, using the KB article. This worked just fine. What I am *not* sure of is the other side of the coin. e.g. the Windows Server 2008R2 VM that is my veeam installation (and proxy.) Chicken & egg problem. I seem to recall seeing an article recommending doing a quick and dirty install of Veeam B&R elsewhere and using that for the restore The thing is, I can easily create a replica of the veeam proxy (updated daily?) Isn't there a less tiresome way, by using the replica? If so, what is the best way? If not, I suppose I can create an OVA of the appliance and stash it somewhere safe.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby foggy » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:50 pm 1 person likes this post

You can read about different approaches in this thread, however, the best practice is backing up Veeam B&R configuration to be able to restore it into a newly installed Veeam B&R instance.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby danswartz » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:50 pm

After some investigation, it seems the simplest way for me (given this is a real unlikely emergency situation) is to use Veeam.Backup.Extractor, and point it at the NFS share where Veeam B&R puts the backups.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:16 am

Be aware that you can restore only from full backups (.vbk), using extract.exe utility. So, it still might be simpler and more convenient just to install a VB&R server anew and use it for restoration purposes. Thanks.
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[MERGED] Failover after Disaster or VBR is inaccessible (VMw

Veeam Logoby stephen.loera » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:08 am

Hello,

I know this question has been asked in the past and I have read some posts back from 2010. I was hoping there has been some updates to this issue since then. Here is our setup. We replicate approximately 160 VMs to an offsite datacenter. Our Veeam Backup and Replication server (VBR) is at the production site orchestrating backups and replication. Failover plans with specific boot sequences have been made. In the event of a major disaster where our primary datacenter becomes either inaccessible or even destroyed, how can I initiate a failover of my VMs that are in our offsite DR datacenter? Is it possible to have 2 VBRs, one in production, and one in DR, that mirror each other? Is there any way to have redundancy of the VBR? Otherwise the VBR becomes a single point of failure. I would like to know of a way to have a redundant VBR or a backup VBR on standby for emergencies such as this?

Powering on these VMs manually through vcenter is not an option. If there was an internet outage to our primary site and the VBR became inaccessible, I would like to be able to initiate our failover plan from our recovery environment, continue our work as a company, and once internet is back, failback our VMs to our primary production site.

I hope this makes sense, I want to eliminate having 1 VBR as the single point of failure on our disaster recovery plan.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:33 am

Hi Stephen, the recommended approach in case of replication is always to have Veeam B&R instance responsible for replication jobs in the target site. That will allow for automated failover/failback operations right from its UI in case of losing production site. You can review this thread for some other approached to protecting Veeam B&R server.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby stephen.loera » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:01 am

Hey Foggy,

Thanks for the response. I do have one concern about that solution. I want to have all backups and replication scheduled together to minimize scheduling conflicts. I am trying to avoid having a backup job and a replication job target the same VM at the same time.

So, is my concern valid? Are there any drawbacks to having a VBR at production that only handles backups, and one offsite that only handles replication?

Another approach, would it be ok to have the VBR that handles backups and replication located at the target site, with proxies and repos for backups at the production site?

Could I suggest a feature request of redundant VBR server, both onsite and offsite, that are synced with one another?

And one last thing:
While this is standard replication, there is one feature about cloud connect replication that I would like to see incorporated into standard replication. Cloud Connect replication has a Web Portal that a tenant can login to to initiate their failover plan if their VBR becomes inaccessible. It's called full site failover. And basically the tenant logs into this portal, which the Service Provider's Veeam Enterprise Manager serves up, then the tenant initiate's a failover plan, the Veeam Enterprise Manager tells the Service Provider VBR to start the tenants failover plan. It's a great setup. And at it's core, it's really just 2 VBR's that are synced with one another in real time.

Sorry for the long post. I basically want to request a web portal for standard replication failovers or redundant VBR servers at different location. Is this possible?
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:35 am

Are there any drawbacks to having a VBR at production that only handles backups, and one offsite that only handles replication?

The only drawback I can think about is the fact that both servers are unaware of each other.

Another approach, would it be ok to have the VBR that handles backups and replication located at the target site, with proxies and repos for backups at the production site?

Correct, this approach is among recommended ones.

Could I suggest a feature request of redundant VBR server, both onsite and offsite, that are synced with one another?

Your voice has been counted.

And at it's core, it's really just 2 VBR's that are synced with one another in real time.

Tenants' replication specific information is stored directly in SP's database, so, it's still a functionality of one backup server or in this case Enterprise Manager that can be made available to outside world via RESTful API.

Thanks.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby Vitaliy S. » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:51 am

Stephen, DR orchestration is coming in our new product Veeam Availability Orchestrator. Once it is available, it should address your concerns of having two or one backup server (production site only), so please sign up to be among the first ones to receive updates about planned features, demoes and betas.
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[MERGED] Loop

Veeam Logoby fcures » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:59 pm

Hi,
I'm trying to make a backup the machine on the same machine I have installed Veeam (whit repositories),
How do they do in these cases?

Thanks

Federico. :roll:
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby PTide » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:15 am

Hi Federico,

If the original question actually meant how to backup Veeam server then please review this thread, otherwise please elaborate on your question.

Thanks!
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[MERGED] Disaster recovery question

Veeam Logoby stijn_multiplies » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:06 pm

Hello all,

Here is a question where i could not instantly come up with a solution.
I'm running B&R on a DC/Data server (as per the clients request).
i'm backing up the files to tapes and the VM's to a NAS.
i know i can instantly recover all the other VM's and all attached drives that are attached but what if my C: driver get corrupted.
Then i would have no access to B&R.
is there a bare metal recovery image i can create? so i can boot into the server and restore a VM from the recovery?
Cause the only image i find is for endpoint protection.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby DGrinev » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:05 pm 1 person likes this post

Hi Stijn,

You could use Veeam Endpoint Backup to create recovery media and perform bare metal recovery of your Veeam backup server.
Otherwise you could use configuration backup inside Veeam B&R to protect all the settings.

Thanks!
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