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[MERGED] So how do i backup a physical unit using B&R 9.5 U2

Veeam Logoby rborhara » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:05 pm

So ive upgraded my Physical Server that run B&R to 9.65 update 2. i also have 2 Virtual Veeam Proxys and all is running ok when backing up ESXI Vm's

Rather than me physicall install the windows agent v2.0 onto a Physical server (i have a test vM with the agent deployed) i pretend this is a Physical box i want to backup using the Backup & replication console which im sure i read is possible

But how do i detect a physical server or is the config all done on the physical servers somehow to point to the Veeam master console
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Re: So how do i backup a physical unit using B&R 9.5 U2

Veeam Logoby vmniels » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:24 pm

You can use the Veeam Agent for Windows to make a full backup of the server. Keep in mind that VBR does Backup Configuration as well on a repository which you can always import if you rebuild the VBR server.
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[MERGED] "best practice" for Veeam B&R sql database server

Veeam Logoby piotr.malek » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:52 am

Hello All

I have a question about "best practice" for Veeam B&R sql database server.

In my case B&R stands on bare metal. I moved B&R databese sql (because now it has 28 GB) on other server VM which is backuped by B&R.

And now I have question is that possible to recover that VM when it's broken and I don't have access to that database.

Please advise me how I should configure that environment...

I hope that I explained that situation clearly :)
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Re: "best practice" for Veeam B&R sql database server

Veeam Logoby DGrinev » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:17 pm

Hi Piotr,

You can protect the configuration database by built-in function called "Configuration backup" accessible in the UI of the Veeam B&R.
In your case with a dedicated VM for SQL, you will have a few more steps before you can start VBR with the database from backup.
Please review this thread for additional information. Thanks!
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby piotr.malek » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:24 am

Hi

I think you didn't understand me...
I'm asking about situation when broke down is VM with SQL server with database of veeam B&R. And that vm is backuped up by B&R.
Question is Can I use B&R somehow?

P.S. Of course I'm using "Configuration backup"

Maybe in other words:

Disaster plan:

1) B&R stands on bare metal server
2) SQL server is virtual machine and contains database of B&R
3) VM SQL server is broken
4) Can I recover VM SQL using B&R (theoretically without his SQL base, I have configuration backup)
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby tdewin » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:24 am

Sure you can do a clean install and do a configuration import.

Or you can do a clean temporary install on for example your laptop or another machine, import the backup, and execute a restore of the SQL DB. You don't need the configuration to execute a restore
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby foggy » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:01 pm

You can also use a standalone extract.exe utility without even the need to install Veeam B&R.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby piotr.malek » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:29 am

thanks for answers :)
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby mensa » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:37 am

Hello,

what's the current correct way to backup the VM where Veeam Backup & Replication is running?
I know the Configuration backup, but I would like to make additionally a backup of the whole VM. Is this possible and what (settings) have to be considered?

vCenter: 6.5
Everything of Veeam B&R is running in one single VM.
Only drive C: (40GB) attached in VM.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby Shestakov » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:14 pm

Hello mensa,
Just create a regular backup job with VBR server VM.
Thanks!
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby mkaec » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:39 pm

There's a lot of recommendations to just backup the configuration and then load that into a fresh install after a disaster. I don't know about VMware, but on Hyper-V waiting 15-60 minutes for Windows to install isn't going to help meet RTO objectives.

I do backup the configuration just to have it. But, my Veeam server is itself a VM and I took the route of using a replication job to get a copy of it onto another host.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby hoFFy » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:50 pm 1 person likes this post

If you don't have a second host to replicate, you could backup the Veeam VM with VBR or with Veeam Agent for Windows.
When using VBR to backup the Veeam VM itself keep in mind that restoring Veeam without Veeam sounds curious, but it is possible in the case of desaster:
I wrote a german blog post about it https://machinewithoutbrain.de/eine-vm- ... erstellen/ but the manual also explains how to work with VBK files, wihtout having a Veeam server: https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... tml?ver=95

This way it is possible to extract the Veeam VM from your backup and upload the necessary files to your hypervisor, register the VM, boot, and do the rest of the desaster recovery.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby MikeK » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:22 pm

If the recommendation is to perform a 'regular backup' of the Veeam BR VM ... wouldn't the obvious dependency be an operational Veeam BR VM to complete the restore? We would need to perform a config restore to get the server up and running in the first place. This is a straightforward process but is not necessarily fast. Also, what if the Veeam config backup is pointing to a repository located at the "Production Site". If this is the case we do not necessarily have a copy at a "DR Site" How do we address these two challenges?

How do we
1) Ensure the Veeam configuration backup is available at local Production Site but also available at our DR Site? We can point the configuration backup to a repository but is there a way we can direct it to a network share? Perhaps a network share that could subsequently be replicated to DR (providing local and remote copies).

2) Quickly restore the Veeam BR VM at a DR site. We can certainly use the configuration backup and build from scratch but this does not necessarily accomplish the "quick" portion of restoring the Veeam BR VM. We could have a standby server built and ready to receive the configuration backup. This option has been mentioned in this thread. What about VMware SRM and storage based replication? Does anyone leverage SRM to protect the Veeam BR VM. If this is an option we could include the Veeam BR VM with regular DR testing.
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby hoFFy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:27 am 1 person likes this post

1) why don't you just save the configuration backup at the DR site? If you have a DR site, you could also replicate the VBR VM with Veeam to that site.

2) A really quick restore of that VM is possible. You can use the Extract Utility to extract a VM (the VBR VM) from a backup chain and then copy it to your host, start it and the VBR server is online again. See the documentation https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... tml?ver=95 or my german blog post: https://machinewithoutbrain.de/eine-vm- ... erstellen/

The Extract Utility could be faster than setting up a new VM, installing Veeam and restoring the configuration. Replication to a server at the DR site is even faster
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Re: What is the best way of protecting the Veeam Backup serv

Veeam Logoby skrause » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:06 pm 1 person likes this post

MikeK wrote:How do we
1) Ensure the Veeam configuration backup is available at local Production Site but also available at our DR Site? We can point the configuration backup to a repository but is there a way we can direct it to a network share? Perhaps a network share that could subsequently be replicated to DR (providing local and remote copies).

2) Quickly restore the Veeam BR VM at a DR site. We can certainly use the configuration backup and build from scratch but this does not necessarily accomplish the "quick" portion of restoring the Veeam BR VM. We could have a standby server built and ready to receive the configuration backup. This option has been mentioned in this thread. What about VMware SRM and storage based replication? Does anyone leverage SRM to protect the Veeam BR VM. If this is an option we could include the Veeam BR VM with regular DR testing.


For question 1) you can have a second B&R server that has in its configuration, any of the repositories used by the main B&R machine. You can then do a config restore from that location pretty easily. The only caveat is that you want to make sure you are not running a lot of jobs from both servers concurrently because they don't talk to each other.

For question 2) you could probably use SRM and/or storage replication to protect the B&R server.

One option to consider is setting up a "DR Veeam" server in your DR site that has a handful of jobs to replicate your production Veeam box on a schedule. When you have an outage all you need to do is fire off a failover plan.

This is all assuming that your DR site has a running VM infrastructure, of course.
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