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Hello,

For security reason, VBR should be in dedicated domain or in workgroup. I install it on workgroup because lot's of overhead to build new domain only for this.

I would like to know what about VeeamOne ?

I mean, I could set it on domain but what I'm afraid of is I need to enter some credentials about virtualisation infrastructure + Backup infrastructure for connection to be done between VeeamOne and VBR / vmware / Hyper-V.
I know I can easely get all my saved credential in a VBR server. I guess it's the same on VeeamOne ?

If yes, I would like to know if it's possible to use it in workgroup environment or there are some limitation ?
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No requirement to keep it in a domain. There is even a KB for when you move from workgroup to domain for the Veeam ONE server: https://www.veeam.com/kb4310 in case you change your mind later.
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Thanks for the answer.
I will install it in workgroup if there is no requirement !
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Hi all,

Correct, it is possible to install Veeam ONE in a workgroup environment. However, if you disable NTLM, you must use AD LDAP instead and that could be the case.

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Also, when using a Workgroup, remember DNS if you want to use hostnames versus IPs. Sometimes, you may need to use the HOSTS file.
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I'm going to use Workgroup but point to the DNS server :)

However, I see recommended database for production environment is SQL standard and not express.
It's for a customer with arround 70 VM and no physicall computer backup, no NAS, ...
If I use local SQL it should be ok. If I use remote, that mean I have to use SQL authentication right ? Because windows authentication can't work with workgroup + domain join computer.
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Yeah, you can use SQL authentication or recreate the service account on the DB server. Either option works as long as you create them as DBAdmin.
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Thanks for your answer.
Why DBadmin ?

On documentation, it's possible to use less permission : https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/one/d ... ml?ver=120
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We assign that for our environment but you can follow documentation for less.
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Hello Matteu,
I see that everyone have already replied, in case you want to hardened a bit the connections, and permissions about different components, please use the next link:
https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/one/d ... ml?ver=120

I usually have VONE on a workgroup, and tend to recommend it as well.

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Thanks for your answer.
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matteu wrote: Dec 04, 2023 6:19 pm I'm going to use Workgroup but point to the DNS server :)

However, I see recommended database for production environment is SQL standard and not express.
It's for a customer with arround 70 VM and no physicall computer backup, no NAS, ...
If I use local SQL it should be ok. If I use remote, that mean I have to use SQL authentication right ? Because windows authentication can't work with workgroup + domain join computer.
VeeamOne works fine on express for a small environment, and removes any headaches for creating user permissions
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It's not a really issue to set some SQL permission. You need to build the SQL query once and then, I will just have to copy/paste it for future installation on other customer as I do to create vsphere role...
What I see is default retention is 1 year and 10 Gb is not a lot for this retention when I use the veeamOne xlsx calculator file :) .
Then, I know performance on SQL express will not be the same than SQL standard. I will use SQL standard because my customer can use it. The hardest part here is to configure it when server is workgroup (VBR + Vone) but I already open a topic for it and I should have a support case number tomorow.
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