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Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by TheNev » Jul 28, 2017 8:20 am 1 person likes this post

Hi

I'm currently running a proof of concept hosting Veeam Cloud Connect in Azure with the hopes of leveraging Azure as a DR Restore destination.
From my testing it appears I cannot perform a Restore to Azure whilst using Cloud Connect as the source
This article says
https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... tml?ver=95
restore to Microsoft Azure from backups in the cloud repository are not supported.

however this marketing implies it's possible
https://www.veeam.com/blog/cloud-restor ... suite.html
"It is also critical to note that those of you who are already using Veeam Cloud Connect Backup for Service Providers or Veeam Cloud Connect for the Enterprise appliances in Azure can bypass the step of copying backup files (since their backups are already stored in Azure), and restore directly from their existing Azure appliance as soon as it is upgraded to version 9.5."

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

I've tested using an Veeam DR2MA

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Jul 28, 2017 11:41 am

Veeam DR2MA is outdated appliance with various limitations (that are not relevant any longer), so, feel free to leverage Veeam Backup & Replication 9.5 instead that has the Direct Restore to MS Azure feature already included.

As to restoration of backups stored in cloud repositories, there are two ways how it can be achieved:

1) Managed by SP. SP might import your backups to his additional console and restore required VMs to Azure.
2) Managed by you. Deploy additional backup console in Azure, connect it to your SP, copy backups to your backup console, restore VMs.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by TheNev » Jul 28, 2017 11:57 am

Thanks for the quick reply.
I was able to achieve 1) by simply creating a CIFS repository that points back at a share of the original VCC repository files. This negates the need to copy them to a new location before importing them.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Jul 28, 2017 12:42 pm

Yep, there should have been an option number 3, indeed.

3) Mixed efforts. SP publishes backups anyhow in order for a tenant to perform restore to MS Azure.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by frankive » Mar 12, 2018 6:31 pm

This is a very intereseting.
We are asked from small companies to host their veeam backup to our Azure VAC/VCC appliance.
They also want us to create a DR-soltuion in case of a disaster on their site by restoring the cloud connect to a new environement in Azure.

By reading this topic I understand we can use the exising VBR which comes with VAC, but should we somehow import the repostory with the backupfiles? What if the backupes is crossed across multiple extens with a scale-out repository?

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Mar 16, 2018 6:55 pm

By reading this topic I understand we can use the exising VBR which comes with VAC
You can use whatever backup server you want to, but it must not be the Cloud Connect server.
By reading this topic I understand we can use the exising VBR which comes with VAC, but should we somehow import the repostory with the backupfiles?
You can import backup files instead of repository.
What if the backupes is crossed across multiple extens with a scale-out repository?
Import backup chain via metadata file; it should import the whole chain.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by frankive » Mar 17, 2018 5:45 pm

ok, not the cloud connect server, that means not the all-in-one VM with vbr,vcc and vac which are avaiable in azure?
We should publish a new vm with 9.5 on the same network in azure as the VCC, import the repository, and then restore?

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by frankive » Mar 19, 2018 5:09 pm

why can it not be the vcc server)

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Mar 20, 2018 2:51 pm

ok, not the cloud connect server, that means not the all-in-one VM with vbr,vcc and vac which are avaiable in azure?
Certainly not. The SP Veeam backup server is meant to be utilized only for configuring and running Veeam Cloud Connect functionality.

To backup or restore tenant VMs a separate console is needed.

More information can be found here.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by Soolfly » Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

Hello v.Eremin,

I'm building a Proof of Concept of Veeam Cloud Connect solution in my company and I'm not sure what I'm doing...

This is what infrastructure I actually have :

##################################
AZURE (Service Provider side)
##################################
- azure-proxy (proxy) :
○ Windows 2016 Server
○ 4 vCPU
○ 7GB RAM
○ Veeam B&R 9.5u3
○ Cloud Connect Licence
○ 10.0.0.4 (private IP)
○ 52.143.136.158 (public IP)

- azure-gw (gateway) :
○ Windows 2016 Server
○ 2 vCPU
○ 3,5GB RAM
○ 10.0.0.5 (private IP)
○ 52.143.138.105 (public IP)

- azure-standalone :
○ Debian 8
○ 1 vCPU
○ 0,75GB RAM
○ 10.0.10.4
○ 52.143.136.179

##################################
My Company (Tenant side)
##################################
- tdwv-cloud-veeam :
○ Windows 2016 Server
○ 4vCPU
○ 8GB RAM
○ Veeam B&R 9.5u3
○ Standard Licence
○ 10.66.41.33

1 - azure-proxy VM is connected to the azure-gw VM (Cloud Gateway) and the azure-gw as the Veeam Backup Cloud Gateway service installed on it.
2 - I've created a Cloud Repository on azure-gw VM (20GB) and connected it to the tdwv-cloud-veeam server (Tenant side) -> Port 6180 (tcp / udp) opened from 10.66.41.33 to 52.143.138.105
(Port on the cloud gateway used to transport VM data from the tenant side to the SP side)

Actually, Restore from AZURE to TENANT side (my company) works great.
There is a Veeam Backup Job on tdwv-cloud-veeam VM who backed up a lamda VM to AZURE. Backup works.

Now, I would like to test Restore Azure to Azure. Is it possible in my case ?
What are all possible scenarios for Backup and Restore with VCC ?

Best regards.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Mar 23, 2018 4:05 pm

Now, I would like to test Restore Azure to Azure. Is it possible in my case ?
Not sure whether I follow you on that. Are you trying to restore previously backed up VM as Azure VM? If so, you will need to setup additional backup console in Azure, import backup data to it and, then, execute restore procedure.

If you want to backup Azure VM, then, you will need to leverage one of our agent solutions (Veeam Agent for Windows, Veeam Agent for Linux).
What are all possible scenarios for Backup and Restore with VCC ?
I'd probably start with reviewing our Help Center.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by frankive » Mar 25, 2018 7:32 pm

so fire up a new VBR server in our VCC, add the scale out repository as a repository to the other VBR server, and then perform restore on behalf of the customer is a supported scenario?

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Mar 26, 2018 12:01 pm

Importing just backup chain customer wants to restore from should be enough; no need to add whole repository. Thanks.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by gambit120 » Mar 26, 2018 9:49 pm

So to get this straight you need to add the CC Repo as a local repo to the VBR instance you are performing the 'Restore to Azure' from?

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Mar 27, 2018 11:39 am

Correct, to restore tenant's backup to Azure, you need to:

- Deploy additional backup server not hosting CC infrastructure
- Either import backup chain to it or add cloud repository to it (as local repository)
- Execute Restore to Azure

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by frankive » Apr 11, 2018 7:41 am 1 person likes this post

Would be nice with a little blog on this though.. :) If the disaster is happening I guess there could be quite a few It-Pros who would need a list with screenshot to follow as they heartbeat is raising to 180 BPM and the brain is not working as planned.. :)

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by jayscarff » Jul 27, 2018 8:31 pm

Vlad,

Is this still the case? I have a...

1 Cloud repository with provider A
1 B&R server with provider B
100 clients with Veeam who use offsite backup with either provider.

I need to restore to Azure directly from the Cloud repository in Provider A - via Provider B B&R console...without having to move TB's of data. I managed provider B so i can make that work BUT... no chance of getting another console in provider A and i dont want them to do the restore. I guess this is by design though and isnt something that will change?

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Jul 30, 2018 3:55 pm

If provider A allows access to corresponding folder that hosts the cloud repository, you can add the cloud repository as regular repository to backup console B and perform restore to Azure from there. Thanks.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by jayscarff » Aug 01, 2018 9:52 pm

Thanks Vlad,
If the repository is on the cloud gateway and has then B&R console, then you could restore to Azure directly from that console\gateway\cloud connect ?
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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Aug 03, 2018 9:12 am

I'm a bit confused with the design described.

- You have two servers: a Cloud Connect server and a backup server
- You want to restore data stored in cloud repository to Azure
- You want to restore this data from the backup server

Does it sound right to you? If so, you will need to get an access from the backup server to underlying file system of cloud connect server.

The access is needed so you can the folder (hosting cloud repository) as regular repository to the backup server. Only then will you be able to restore VMs to Azure.

Otherwise, consider deploying a spare console close to the cloud connect server and using it solely for restoration purposes.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by frankive » Aug 03, 2018 9:16 am

Wouldn't it be easier to be able to restore from the VCC server directly into Azure in a future relase since this is causing confusing among serverl consultants I know.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Aug 03, 2018 2:29 pm

If we allowed this at certain point, we would do give this option at tenant's side, not SP's one. Anyway, I got your point. Thanks.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by randerson999 » Aug 07, 2018 3:08 pm

I am royally confused at this point. We are in the same boat as many here. We are doing a POC and backing up from on-prem to Azure using Veeam Cloud Connect for Enterprise. This appears to be going fine as far as the backups are concerned.

However, in the event of a DR situation we want to be able to restore those VCC backups directly into Azure. I understand this is not possible by just using the VCC VM, but what EXACTLY is required to make this happen? Remember, the on-prem VB&R may or may not be accessible during the DR situation.

This being the case, I understand that we would need a VB&R VM in Azure that somehow has access to the VCC repository (directly or indirectly - VB&R may have a local repos and have a copy of the VCC repos backups). At that point, can you initiate a restore from the Azure VB&R server DIRECTLY into Azure itself?

Alternatively, if you have an operational on-prem VB&R server and an Azure based Veeam proxy VM, presumably you can also restore the Azure-based VCC backups provided you can access the repository that is holding those backups?

The v9.5 docs appear to not support direct restores from VCC into Azure - https://helpcenter.veeam.com/docs/backu ... tml?ver=95 - but this thread seems to indicate otherwise. I just can't quite wrap my head around the exact process!

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by jayscarff » Aug 07, 2018 4:25 pm

I dont think its very straight forward, but I'm going to put the B&R console on the VCC gateway...means you can import the backups from the local repo and restore directly to Azure. be aware that i've not figured out how i can add an existing Azure Proxy to another console....so you may need to create a new one from the VCC B&R console.
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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Aug 08, 2018 11:59 am

This being the case, I understand that we would need a VB&R VM in Azure that somehow has access to the VCC repository (directly or indirectly - VB&R may have a local repos and have a copy of the VCC repos backups). At that point, can you initiate a restore from the Azure VB&R server DIRECTLY into Azure itself?
All you need is a separate backup server to which you can import required backups (not the one that runs Cloud Connect infrastructure). Once backups are imported, you can initiate whatever restore operation you'd like to.

If this backup server runs in Azure, restore traffic will be isolated to Azure.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by randerson999 » Aug 09, 2018 2:08 pm

^ But is it as simple as just restoring from the VB&R VM you have running in Azure? How does VB&R communicate with Azure to actually restore from the backup? With on-prem, your VB&R has to have a registered vcenter in order to know where it can restore to. On the Azure VB&R, you won't be registered to a vcenter .. so how does it do the restore? How does it know where to restore to?

I've done an on-prem to Azure restore using an Azure Proxy, so I assume it works in a similar fashion - there must be built-in code somewhere that allows VB&R to restore to Azure without explicitly referencing or registering a vcenter server.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Aug 09, 2018 6:24 pm

But is it as simple as just restoring from the VB&R VM you have running in Azure?
As mentioned, CC console cannot be used for restoration purpose.
How does VB&R communicate with Azure to actually restore from the backup?
You will register Azure subscription first. Then, you will restore VMs to this subscription. Kindly, check corresponding section of our User Guide.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by randerson999 » Aug 10, 2018 2:17 pm

Once again, that guide is only for restoring from ON-PREMISE to AZURE :)

We have backed up to Azure using VCC. The issue is restoring those backups that are already IN AZURE on the VCC vm INTO our AZURE instance. I know we can restore from ON-PREM into AZURE. We need to be able to restore FROM AZURE TO AZURE. We know we can't use the VCC VM to do the restore as well.

So, can we create a separate VB&R VM in Azure to restore those Veeam Backups from the VCC VM directly into Azure? There will be NO involvement from on-premise at all in this scenario.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by veremin » Aug 10, 2018 4:05 pm

So, can we create a separate VB&R VM in Azure to restore those Veeam Backups from the VCC VM directly into Azure? There will be NO involvement from on-premise at all in this scenario.
Correct, as all components will be sitting in Azure. Thanks.

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Re: Restore to Azure from Cloud Connect

Post by randerson999 » Aug 10, 2018 7:42 pm

Ok, I will try installing VB&R on a different Azure VM and then see if I can share the repository from the VCC VM. Thanks!

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