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B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by BruceLee » Nov 25, 2018 3:45 pm

Hi,

i would like to setup the following scenario and would like to know if you guys think it's feasible or if there are any caveats. Thanks.
ESXiHOST (physical): ESXi 6.7 free version without VCenter.
Two VMs on this host (2x Server 2016 in LAN)
Two 10G Nics

BACKUPSERVER (physical): Win 10 Pro 64bit with latest B&R
local raid underneath for the backups
tanderberg rdx via USB
Two 10G Nics

Both physical Servers (BACKUPSERVER and ESXiHOST) have the first 10G Nic in LAN subnet to access these servers and also the VMs in LAN subnet from LAN side.
The second 10G Nic of each server is connected without a switch directly to each other on a separate subnet so that the backup runs without a 10G switch.

Thanks a lot for any thoughts and help.

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Re: B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by Andreas Neufert » Nov 25, 2018 8:49 pm

Hi Bruce,

thanks for the question. At unlicensed ESXi edition there are some APIs that we need for backup not enabled and you can not use our functionallity against those.
Sometimes it just work as the APIs are available by mistake and later closed at an ESXi update.

Let´s say you have added a ESXi license or the 60 day trial license of ESXi.
If you connect the ESXi host to Veeam with the specific IP address of the VMkernel interface that is connected directly with B&R it should run without issues.

Potentially there are API calls that use the full quliefied domain name of the ESXi host that is reported from it. So if you see any error that say ESXi host not reachable you can create an windows hosts entry for the FQDN and use the "direct connect" ESXi address. You can test this without it and if needed I can help you to add it. Please just ask here for it.

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Re: B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by BruceLee » Nov 25, 2018 11:17 pm

HI Andreas,

thanks for your reply. Does your first sentence really mean B&R does NOT work on esxi free?
Can I somehow profit from a mix of B&R and Veeam Agent for Microsoft Windows FREE ?
Or is B&R useless in that case?
And is this limitation also appliable on Hyper-V free?
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Re: B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by Andreas Neufert » Nov 26, 2018 9:33 am

To you first question. Yes this is correct. No VMware backup product can work. As I said if you are lucky there are some VMware ESXi versions that do not prohibit API access and would just work (until the next udpate). But overall it is a clear no. Please see the following blog entry for details: https://www.veeam.com/blog/veeam-and-free-esxi.html

Secnd question, yes this is possible:
http://www.virtualtothecore.com/en/use- ... s-backups/

Hyper-V free edition is fully supported as there are no such API restrictions. https://www.veeam.com/veeam_backup_9_5_ ... tes_rn.pdf

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Re: B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by v.eremin » Nov 26, 2018 12:34 pm

However, the approach described by Luca will only work, if you have a paid license for Veeam Agent for Windows.

Basically, to send backups to backup repository, you need either VB&R or VAW paid license.

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Re: B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by BruceLee » Nov 26, 2018 8:00 pm

Thanks a lot. That API limitation is annonying, but it is how it is. Never worked with free versions so far because I always need more features.
In this case I thought I could go for a free one. Guess I'm not now :)
Still not sure if HyperV or Vmware. I'm used to Vmware but with backup solutions.
Would a VMware vSphere Essentials Kits version cover all to have B&R running without any limitations?
It has just the vSphere Hypervisor and vCenter Server Essentials but without all of these: vMotion, Cross Switch vMotion, High Availability, Data Protection, vShield Endpoint, vSphere Replication

Thanks a lot

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Re: B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by Andreas Neufert » Nov 26, 2018 8:04 pm

Any paid version that include ESXi would enable the API.

I heard that some ROBO office licenses are the cheapest ones, but I am not a VMware licensing specialist.

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Re: B&R direct with ESXi Free

Post by BruceLee » Nov 26, 2018 8:46 pm

thanks a lot for your help. great support. perfect.

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[MERGED] Backup ESXi 6.7 Free

Post by BassTeQ » Dec 05, 2018 4:20 am

Do the veeam products like Backup and Restore not support ESXi Free version?

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Re: Backup ESXi 6.7 Free

Post by BassTeQ » Dec 05, 2018 5:40 am

Think I've found the answer I was looking for; free esxi version doesnt have the backup api exposed, so the only way is to do agent level backups.

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Re: Backup ESXi 6.7 Free

Post by Andreas Neufert » Dec 05, 2018 5:42 am

Please find your answer arround „ESXi free“ here:
post304487.html?hilit=free#p304487

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