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Backup Repository - no more space

Post by sogapex » Aug 22, 2019 5:27 am

Hello,

what is the best way to handle a "full" backup repository ?
In my case, my monthly backup target is full (NAS).
And so, the job fails since, if I understand well, it does its backup thing first and then remove older backups in the chain.

I removed some of the oldest backups files to get some space, but now, one of the VMs is not backupped anymore by the job (Error : file does not exist)

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by Andreas Neufert » Aug 22, 2019 7:33 am

Please contact our support to solve the situation. The issue is that we keep track of our backup files and if some are lost (manual delete) we do not allow to continue to backup because something happened out of our control at the backup target.

There is a Repository-Advanced checkbox for "changeable media" which deactivate this monitoring and if the existing chain is not there anymore we will recreate the backups.

If you delete backups manually I strongly suggest to do this within our user interface.

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by sogapex » Aug 22, 2019 1:01 pm

yes, I already contacted the support team and the "problem" is solved. (very quickly as usual)
But, my question here = what is the best way to handle a "full" repository ?
You say : "do this within our user interface"
=> where can I manage that ?
when I go to "home / Backups" and then "right click" on the job name / properties, I can't see a way to remove some backup files there.

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by danswartz » Aug 22, 2019 2:56 pm 1 person likes this post

You go to the Backups => Disk view? Then you can see job names. Right-click on jobs and delete from disk?

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by sogapex » Aug 23, 2019 5:16 am

I can see this option, but it sounds like to me it would delete the entire job backup from the disk.
In my case, I only want to be able to delete some older backup (example : first full backup and all the next incremental backups in the chain. Or only some VMs's backups. But definitvely not the whole thing)

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by veremin » Aug 23, 2019 12:08 pm

Manually remove old backups (but make sure you do not remove backups current backup chain consists of - the latest .vbk, for instance). Then, re-scan backup repository. After that, remove missing restore points. Thanks!

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by sogapex » Aug 23, 2019 1:26 pm

ok, exactely what I did in the end.
Thanks for your help.

Suggestion : having a feature to "maximize" the number of backups => instead of telling Veeam B&R how many restore points we want to get. ("I" just want to store as much restore points as possible on the target media)

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by foggy » Aug 26, 2019 5:30 pm

Your suggestion is good in theory but has several pitfalls, for example, the need to predict how much space will the next restore point occupy with the ability to free up the required space (currently retention is applied at the end of the job) and also the risk to lose all restore points in case the next one is too big.

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by sogapex » Sep 03, 2019 6:25 am

yes, you are right : this is already a complex problem for us (human). Prediction is not a good thing in such a case (backup = we want reliability first)

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Re: Backup Repository - no more space

Post by GreenAlpha55 » Sep 11, 2019 12:44 pm

Do not let your repository fill up or you risk losing all your backups! https://www.veeam.com/kb1886

This happened to us 6 months ago on a Synology :( We've since moved to an R740xd physical server with Raid50 local storage on ReFS.

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