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Bootleneck: "Source" without reason
Goodmorning,
I'm Nicola from Elinet.
I've already used veeam as a backup solution in the past.
At the moment i'm facing a problem regarding the bottleneck of bacakups. My backup speed when i start a job is around 12MB/s.
Veeam is installed in a VM inside a Host with ESXi 6.0. I configured all the environment with the Vcenter server. As backup repository i added a CIFS share and an ISCSI disk (for test). All of them are from my NAS.
Veeam's proxy configuration: Virtual Appliance.
I configured NAS, ESXi, and all VMs with jumbo frames at 9000.
If i try to upload or download a large file from my NAS by CIFS, the average speed is 100 MB/s.
The main Datastore of my Virtual environment is conneted by ISCSI. Disk peformance are good between VMs (around 80 MB/s).
I'm not understand why bottleneck still remaining "Source".
What i'm doing wrong?
regards
I'm Nicola from Elinet.
I've already used veeam as a backup solution in the past.
At the moment i'm facing a problem regarding the bottleneck of bacakups. My backup speed when i start a job is around 12MB/s.
Veeam is installed in a VM inside a Host with ESXi 6.0. I configured all the environment with the Vcenter server. As backup repository i added a CIFS share and an ISCSI disk (for test). All of them are from my NAS.
Veeam's proxy configuration: Virtual Appliance.
I configured NAS, ESXi, and all VMs with jumbo frames at 9000.
If i try to upload or download a large file from my NAS by CIFS, the average speed is 100 MB/s.
The main Datastore of my Virtual environment is conneted by ISCSI. Disk peformance are good between VMs (around 80 MB/s).
I'm not understand why bottleneck still remaining "Source".
What i'm doing wrong?
regards
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Re: Bootleneck: "Source" without reason
Hi,
Was it a full backup run or an incremental one? Could you please provide a full bottleneck statistics for full backup and job session log? Also please check if you have any kind of IO throttling configured. Btw, have you checked IO queue length on your storage during the job run?
Thank you.
Was it a full backup run or an incremental one? Could you please provide a full bottleneck statistics for full backup and job session log? Also please check if you have any kind of IO throttling configured. Btw, have you checked IO queue length on your storage during the job run?
Thank you.
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Re: Bootleneck: "Source" without reason
Also, remember a file copy is a pure sequential read/write activity, almost any backup operation is not, so a direct comparison between the two operations cannot be done.
It's like saying how fast my car can run on a 100km straight line, or trying to be as fast as possible in racetrack with turns...
It's like saying how fast my car can run on a 100km straight line, or trying to be as fast as possible in racetrack with turns...
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Re: Bootleneck: "Source" without reason
Thanks all for replying me
i don't have any kind of throttling configured in veeam (I checked the link too)
Here some other options i modified:
- Backup Repository. (CIFS and ISCSI) I removed "Limit Maximum concurrent Task" and "Limit combined data rate to"
- Vmware Proxy. I change transport mode to "Virtual appliance".
- Job Backup. I changed "Storage optimization" to "LAN target" (in my CIFS test. Local Target on my ISCSI Test).
This is what i changed from default settings.
i will post ASAP all the job statistics
Thanks all
Regards
Mine was only an example just to have more details. I noticed a huge gap between them so i wanted to write it.dellock6 wrote:Also, remember a file copy is a pure sequential read/write activity, almost any backup operation is not, so a direct comparison between the two operations cannot be done.
It's like saying how fast my car can run on a 100km straight line, or trying to be as fast as possible in racetrack with turns...
I did my tests with an Active Full.PTide wrote:Hi,
Was it a full backup run or an incremental one? Could you please provide a full bottleneck statistics for full backup and job session log? Also please check if you have any kind of IO throttling configured. Btw, have you checked IO queue length on your storage during the job run?
Thank you.
i don't have any kind of throttling configured in veeam (I checked the link too)
Here some other options i modified:
- Backup Repository. (CIFS and ISCSI) I removed "Limit Maximum concurrent Task" and "Limit combined data rate to"
- Vmware Proxy. I change transport mode to "Virtual appliance".
- Job Backup. I changed "Storage optimization" to "LAN target" (in my CIFS test. Local Target on my ISCSI Test).
This is what i changed from default settings.
i will post ASAP all the job statistics
Thanks all
Regards
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Re: Bootleneck: "Source" without reason
Ok, that really seems like slow reads from storage. Have you checked datastore I/O queue depth during backup on your ESXi?
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Re: Bootleneck: "Source" without reason
I'd also try network mode, just to compare.
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i've tried also "network mode" without results.
I made some changes to the Virtual disk of the VM running veeam.
it was configured with "Thick provisoned"
Now i changed with "Thick provisoned Eager zeroed". I also deleted all snapshot of the machine and change disk type to "independent persistent".
...nothing changed
maybe i need to do some other tuning?
i've tried also "network mode" without results.
I made some changes to the Virtual disk of the VM running veeam.
it was configured with "Thick provisoned"
Now i changed with "Thick provisoned Eager zeroed". I also deleted all snapshot of the machine and change disk type to "independent persistent".
...nothing changed
maybe i need to do some other tuning?
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Re: Bootleneck: "Source" without reason
Possibly... but we can't troubleshoot storage issues over the forum posts effectively, so please open a support case and have our engineers take a closer look at your deployment.
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