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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by veremin » Nov 29, 2016 10:15 am

It does not matter, as neither VB&R 9.0 nor VB&R 9.5 supports vSphere 6.5. Thanks.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by ailar » Nov 29, 2016 10:51 am

Any news about update 1?

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by foggy » Nov 29, 2016 10:56 am

Hi Ailar, have you read this topic carefully? If you're asking about ETA for Update 1, then this was already answered a couple of times above.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by bodgeup » Nov 29, 2016 1:56 pm

v.Eremin wrote:It does not matter, as neither VB&R 9.0 nor VB&R 9.5 supports vSphere 6.5. Thanks.
I have Veeam 9 update 0 running with Vcenter 6.5 and its working fine which surprised me.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by foggy » Nov 29, 2016 2:14 pm 1 person likes this post

Hi John, as it is mentioned above, even if basic functionality may work, this combination is not officially supported.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by Zew » Nov 29, 2016 9:06 pm 2 people like this post

As Alex already mentioned "Not Supported" This is a key thing to remember, IF something were to happen /go wrong. Veeam support may not be able to help you as that version of ESXi/vCenter is NOT SUPPORTED! Make sure everyone in your IT environment is aware of this, if you are using Veeam and the latest VMware builds.

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[MERGED] Support for vSphere 6.5 requires VBR 9.5 U1 or late

Post by raphael@schitz.net » Nov 30, 2016 1:49 pm

Hi folks, i'd need to clone a vm on a standalone ESXi 6.5 (non production) but got this message when trying to connect.

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Anything workaround i can use even if vSphere 6.5 is not supported yet?

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Re: Support for vSphere 6.5 requires VBR 9.5 U1 or later

Post by benbour » Nov 30, 2016 2:03 pm

I'm looking for a solution to a similar issue as well. Updated production VCSA to 6.5 and found it broke backup with:

Task failed Error: Support for vSphere 6.5 requires Veeam Backup & Replication 9.5 Update 1 or later.

Called Veeam and was told I can't get update 1 until the new year, so why does the error message say I must update? Why not just say I have to rollback until an update is actually available?

In the past, I was given an early release in beta to test, was hoping for something similar in this case.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by Gostev » Nov 30, 2016 2:25 pm 1 person likes this post

benbour wrote:Called Veeam and was told I can't get update 1 until the new year, so why does the error message say I must update? Why not just say I have to rollback until an update is actually available?
If you look carefully, the error message does not say you must update now. Why I worded the message this way: remember that the same exact GA B&R code you have used will still be downloaded and installed by customers 3, 6, 12 months from now. So, the wording had to be both "technically correct" today and yet "future proof" for the next year. And I think I have succeeded in meeting both requirements with the current wording :D
benbour wrote:In the past, I was given an early release in beta to test, was hoping for something similar in this case.
We will have something similar again, I will notify here in this topic when we start the Update 1 pilot and then you will be able to obtain one from support. The current plan is to start the pilot around the end of December.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by benbour » Nov 30, 2016 2:34 pm

Gostev wrote:We will have something similar again, I will notify here in this topic when we start the Update 1 pilot and then you will be able to obtain one from support. The current plan is to start the pilot around the end of December.
Thanks for that. Since I've always used appliance, VMware wisely upgrades to 6.5 and essentially just "turns off" vcsa 6 and then turns on 6.5. Rolling back is as simple as turning off the new one, updating your network for old one and turning it back on. I will wait until U1 is available and then switch back over to 6.5

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by heelsonwheels » Dec 01, 2016 4:41 am

Any update on when ESX 6.5 would be supported ?

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by Vitaliy S. » Dec 01, 2016 9:51 am

Please take a look at the first page of this thread for the answer.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by infused » Dec 01, 2016 11:50 am

Hmm thought this was a minor release
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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by Gostev » Dec 01, 2016 1:21 pm

Not really, as I explained in the second post of this topic ;)

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by mikeely » Dec 06, 2016 6:54 pm

Cripes. Right in the middle of our test deployment vSphere got updated, now it looks like we're dead in the water on the test.

Can we please get a better ETA than "generally about two months after GA?" It's been long enough to have a better sense of how Update 1 development is going.
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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by Gostev » Dec 06, 2016 9:51 pm

mikeely wrote:Can we please get a better ETA than "generally about two months after GA?" It's been long enough to have a better sense of how Update 1 development is going
Well, this is probably not going to be what you wanted to hear, so don't shoot the messenger!

Long story short, we had to do a major rewrite of our VDDK 6.5 support code, because VMware dropped one new VDDK feature that we have already integrated with. This change happened last minute, between the last RC and RTM builds - and we only found out from testing the RTM build. They told us about the new functionality back in February, and while it did require significant amount of code changes to support, we had plenty of time to implement and test. In hindsight, we were better off not jumping the gun, but honestly this functionality was just too juicy to pass on...

Anyway, this fact will certainly delay our vSphere 6.5 support somewhat. We thought we were sitting on the "ready to go" code, and did not really expect that the "holy grail" of the backup engine will need such a major surgery. That said, unless stress testing uncovers any surprises, I expect us to still be able to meet our historical "2 months after vSphere RTM" timeline with mid-January release.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by mikeely » Dec 06, 2016 10:36 pm

Thanks for the detailed and prompt response. From curiosity (and since VMWare's RCs aren't totally NDA material) what feature did they drop at the last minute?
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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by Gostev » Dec 06, 2016 11:40 pm 1 person likes this post

Since we've got this information under NDA and the feature was never announced publicly, I have to assume it remains under NDA... but I can say it is performance related. Part of this new functionality actually survived in the RTM build, but not the one that really makes difference unfortunately.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by mikeely » Dec 06, 2016 11:46 pm

Datastores running WinFS, right? ;)
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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by orb » Dec 08, 2016 3:00 pm

Is it safe to run the vCenter in 6.5 and leave all host in 6.0U2 to avoid comparability problems ?

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by foggy » Dec 08, 2016 3:01 pm

Olivier, such configuration is also not supported.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by jamerson » Dec 10, 2016 1:21 am

Does anyone knows when the the update will be available ?

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by Gostev » Dec 10, 2016 7:07 pm

Just about everyone who read my post at the top of this page knows this ;)

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by jamerson » Dec 10, 2016 8:10 pm

I know its two konten after the release.
We are already 2 months behind.
We are busy with a new infrastructuur and want to apply the new esxi 6.5
That ehy the rush

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by tsightler » Dec 10, 2016 9:37 pm 2 people like this post

jamerson wrote:We are already 2 months behind.
GA for vSphere 6.5 was Nov 15th so we are not even one full month from that yet.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by pirx » Dec 15, 2016 1:55 pm 1 person likes this post

Not if they are running on beta.... *duck and cover*

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by dbhagen » Dec 16, 2016 5:00 pm

Anxious to get my hands on the new web interface for vSphere (mostly Mac shop here), but can't leave backups behind.

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[MERGED] Update to Vcenter 6.5 - Veeam out of Order !!!!!

Post by WinstonWolf » Dec 20, 2016 8:25 am

Hello ,

Yesterday we updated our Vcenter Server to Version 6.5 and now Veeam B&R tells me to Update to Version 9.5 Update 1 .
Release Date Vsphere was the 15.11.2016

Whats going on Veeam ?

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Re: Update to Vcenter 6.5 - Veeam out of Order !!!!!

Post by ACC » Dec 20, 2016 9:00 am

The current Veeam 9.5 version doesnt have official support for VMware vCenter 6.5 or ESXi 6.5, the official support comes with Veeam 9.5 update 1. There no official release date for this update.

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Re: ESXi 6.5 and vCenter 6.5 support

Post by homerjnick » Dec 20, 2016 4:41 pm

dbhagen wrote:Anxious to get my hands on the new web interface for vSphere (mostly Mac shop here), but can't leave backups behind.
You can install the fling on an ESXi box and use it, its pretty good...I have been using it for a while...I suspect what they offer as download n the fling is the same as ESXi 6.5.

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