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Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Zerto?

Post by v33@m3r » Jun 15, 2015 1:44 pm

Hi There,

I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of a situation whereby Veeam is being used for backups, and Zerto used for replication alongside this.
I know of an existing Veeam customer, who want to use Zerto for replication, and I'm wondering if anyone knows of anyone who has this working, or if there are any obvious reasons why there may be problems.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by Shestakov » Jun 15, 2015 2:36 pm

Hi,
Yes, there are a number of Zerto users. Easiest way to reach them is to use the search tool.
For instance, this customer is using Zerto to replicate VBR server.
Could you specify your customer`s needs? Thanks!

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by johnlong » Jun 16, 2015 3:33 am 1 person likes this post

I use both with no problems. The minute Veeam implements the type of replication Zerto uses I will drop Zerto.

They complement each other imo. Not having to deal with replication snapshots with Veeam is why I chose Zerto. You can't beat Veeam for historical vm backups.

I wish Veeam would acquire Zerto, lol 8)

Just be aware of which product is used to quiesce databases.

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by Encode7 » Jul 16, 2015 6:00 pm

Used both in parallel for several years with no conflicting issues, there is enough product differentiation between them to deliver sufficient value from having both.
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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by Gostev » Jul 16, 2015 6:20 pm

johnlong wrote:I wish Veeam would acquire Zerto, lol 8)
That is not happening for sure: we don't acquire anything, we always build in-house to ensure quality and supportability.

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by abraun » Jul 29, 2015 1:43 pm

We are using Veeam for backups and Zerto for replication with no issues at all. Zerto's replication is a little more robust IMO than Veeam's IMO.

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by GiacomoG » Jul 29, 2015 3:29 pm

Yes, I use both and I have to say they have some differences that makes them valuable for different kind of customers but...Zerto DR is far more attractive than Veeam backups...really this is a feature that shifted me a lot on Zerto.

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by michelsch » Jul 30, 2015 8:30 am

VEEAM and Zerto is a good to combine. Zerto is perfect for replication with a low RPO. VEEAM's RPO is little longer.

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by johnlong » Aug 03, 2015 9:57 pm

Gostev wrote: That is not happening for sure: we don't acquire anything, we always build in-house to ensure quality and supportability.
This could be a game changer.
VMware vSphere API for IO Filtering (VAIO) allows third party software developers to add data services to ESXi and vSphere. - See more at: http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/ ... torage-api

Could this be used to implement real-time replication within Veeam? If I remember correctly one of the arguments of why Veeam doesn't do what Zerto is doing is because the way Zerto splits the IO isn't "officially" supported by VMware.

When do the beta tests start? I'm in when they do! :mrgreen:

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by Balbo » Sep 01, 2015 4:09 pm

Hi to all

Has anyone used Veeam B&R to backup of the replicas made with Zerto? Not the original VM but its replica...does it function?

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by PTide » Sep 01, 2015 4:49 pm

Hi,
Has anyone used Veeam B&R to backup of the replicas made with Zerto?
Since your Zerto-replica is just another VM being hosted on ESXi host and can be snapshotted I don't see reasons why it should not work. The only drawback that comes to my mind is that CBT feature will not work with backup from replica. Please see this thread for details.

Thank you.

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by johnlong » Jun 26, 2017 4:06 am 2 people like this post

johnlong wrote:This could be a game changer.
VMware vSphere API for IO Filtering (VAIO) allows third party software developers to add data services to ESXi and vSphere. - See more at: http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/ ... torage-api

Could this be used to implement real-time replication within Veeam? If I remember correctly one of the arguments of why Veeam doesn't do what Zerto is doing is because the way Zerto splits the IO isn't "officially" supported by VMware.

When do the beta tests start? I'm in when they do! :mrgreen:
I don't normally quote one of my own posts but I was searching the internet for info on Veeam and VAIO and came across this. Do I win an award for being one of, if not, the first to predict a new Veeam feature? lol. I can't wait to try this out!

And I'd still like to know when the beta for V10 starts!

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Re: Has anyone ever used Veeam for backups, combined with Ze

Post by Shestakov » Jun 26, 2017 12:36 pm 1 person likes this post

Great vision and valuable feature request back in 2015 :)
Indeed Veeam CDP (Continuous Data Protection) based on VMware’s VAIO framework is one of v10 features. No ETA of Beta or RTM to be announced though, please stay tuned!

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