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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:28 pm

Thanks! And you are right about per-VM with deduplicating storage.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby millardjk » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:36 am

Case re: unusable seed copy job on Catalyst store after copying from portable media to StoreOnce using "COPY+PASTE" method in Files panel. 01707863. Additional information about environment & logs in 01704762; in this second case, the same symptoms apply, but were presumed to be the result of a bad copyjob source (there were some errors in the original copy job that created the VBM/VBK on the removable media).

I suspect that there's some Catalyst-related information that isn't set properly in the file copy process; Veeam seems to be able to read the VBM (it does create a database entry for the job in the "Imported Backups" area), but dipping further into the VBK just throws a fatal error (OSCLT_ERR_INVALID_OBJECT_KEY_FILTER) and the entire repository rescan fails.

Although the rescan fails, the presence of the job in the "imported backups" node allows the original job to have the target moved to the StoreOnce, and the job can be saved, but as soon as it tries to execute, repository errors get thrown out like candy at a parade (more of the aforementioned errors). Client has multi-terabyte backups that we need to seed in this fashion, and it can't even handle a ~150GB VBK...
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby SyNtAxx » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:11 pm

millardjk wrote:To start with, the ScaleOut migration doesn't work. No explanation why, but it doesn't (in practice). And while I totally understand the desire to get things migrated by using a new per-VM chain, this does NO GOOD when trying to seed a remote copy.
There is a copy/paste function in the UI (look under Files and you'll see the StoreOnce repos and be able to do some minimal file manipulation on them). They are no, however, valid targets for a File Copy job, and I've found hit-and-miss results (mostly miss) with trying to copy large files over to the Catalyst store: horrible errors thrown when trying to rescan the repository or open the backup for recovery or adding a new incremental to the chain.

I have found scale out repo migrations/evacuation to not work correctly either.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:18 pm

There are currently no known issues with scale out repository evacuation functionality, so I tend to suspect a storage-specific issue here.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby millardjk » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:42 am

Steps to reproduce migration issue:
1) copy or create (new) a backup chain on a StoreOnce-based share.
2) create a scale-out repo using the SO share and a SO Catalyst Store
3) evacuate the SO share repo.
4) die of old age before it actually accomplishes anything

Steps to reproduce the seeding issue:
1) target a removable NTFS-formatted drive with a copy job
2) using the File tool in the Veeam console, copy to folder from the removable media to the ShareOnce Catalyst store
3) rescan catalyst store.

*if possible, the source for the copy job should be a different StoreOnce store on a different StoreOnce using a different mount server.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby foggy » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:22 am

While there are no known issues with scale-out repository evacuation functionality itself, it is not supported for the "migration to Catalyst" scenario. There's some specifics in how metadata is stored in the backup file on Catalyst Store and attempts to write backups stored on a regular repository to Catalyst will fail.
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[MERGED] Seeding / Migration to StoreOnce Catalyst

Veeam Logoby Markus.K1985 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:39 am

Ist there something on the Roadmap to close the gap?
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby foggy » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:49 am

Markus, the recommended way of migration is described in the beginning of this thread. Seeding is not an option here, since for the per-VM backup chain setting to take effect, you need to perform an active full anyway.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby Markus.K1985 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:48 pm

I'm aware of this.

I was thinking about an option to Import a existing Backup (*.vib) on NAS or local Disk to a Catalyst store.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby foggy » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:23 pm

No plans in this regard at the moment.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby Markus.K1985 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:07 am

Is an enhancement request for that possible?

Should work for DDB an Catalyst... An ist good Step in to the Enterprise Market!
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby foggy » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:41 am

Thanks, your request is accepted.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby gdavid16 » Tue May 03, 2016 10:37 pm

anyone using catalyst shares, how many VMs are going at once? we are constantly seeing COFC errors when we do to many jobs/tasks at the same time.
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Tue May 03, 2016 11:34 pm

Hi George, you want to avoid pointing too many tasks to the same StoreOnce unit, because its limit of concurrently open files is very low comparing to other storage devices. I voiced my concern about this to HP back when we started working on the integration, and was assured this is something they will address in close future. But for now, from reliability perspective it is best not to run too many simultaneous tasks against StoreOnce, or you will keep hitting the limit. Thanks!
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Re: HP StoreOnce shares to catalyst stores

Veeam Logoby gdavid16 » Wed May 04, 2016 12:45 am

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