Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby foggy » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:56 pm

It's not yet decided.
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby Gostev » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:14 pm

That said, it is unlikely this will be available in all editions... the functionality is just too advanced, and so the associated support costs will be quite high.
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby lando_uk » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:36 am

How would Veeam 10 with CDP compare with Zerto? Would they offer similar features?
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:09 pm

It's too early to share any specifics regarding this feature. But just out of curiosity - what features do you like most and what features must be implemented? Thanks.
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby crackocain » Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:15 am

Hi

This replication is application aware? SQL, Oracle supported?
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:54 pm

It will support application aware image processing. Take a look at this blog post for more details.
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[MERGED] Veeam CDP - support physical RDM's?

Veeam Logoby bpayne » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:37 pm

Sorry no sub-forum for the new CDP product that I'm aware of yet. Few questions if I could try and get some insight.

1. Will CDP support VM's that have physical RDM's (eg - most healthcare EMR's require RDMs).
2. I know I'm really reaching with this one, any licensing details yet (per vm? Ent+?).

Thank you
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby v.Eremin » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:53 pm

We cannot provide any details at this moment. However, I'm wondering what are the reasons to stay on pRDM (not even vRDM) these days, could provide more details? Thanks.
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby bpayne » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:44 pm

I dont disagree with you at all. But, Healthcare EMR applications require physical RDM's (for ex - Meditech, EPIC, etc). And we have customers using both those EMR's. The vendor will not support the application unless you follow their guidelines (which also creates an issue for Veeam Backup - we have to use Networker). And this goes without saying, if you dont have a supported EMR application, you dont have a hospital! According to Zerto and EMC Recoverpoint, those products do support VM's with physical RDM's. So this is an area I reallllly hope Veeam CDP can perform. Thanks for asking. I've been pushing this issue with my Veeam Sales Rep to get Veeam a bit more on board for Healthcare apps (b/c they require some very special backup and replication configurations).
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby dellock6 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:34 am 1 person likes this post

More than Veeam CDP supporting RDM, I'd wonder if VMware VAIO libraries do, and I highly doubt it. Exactly like snapshots and other techs, VAIO premise is that the IO goes through the hypervisor stack in order to be filtered and processed, with RDM (exactly like in-gues iscsi as another example) data totally bypass this stack and go straight to the volume.
I only found for now this blog (https://dpzoneblog.wordpress.com/2016/0 ... t-title-2/) talking about recoverpoint and seems indeed that VAIO does not support RDM.

PS: Zerto does not use VAIO libraries, so it may be that they support RDM. It's funny that such applications are so interested in certifying data protection solutions (and that's good) and then the accept a solution that not even the underlying hypervisor supports (https://kb.vmware.com/kb/2069900).
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby bpayne » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:48 pm

Thanks for your response. That's a HUGE bummer. I'm also trying to get some confirmation from a VMware resource.
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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby mwvme » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:32 pm

Some of the packaging decisions will be made closer to release. So not sure of the answer right now.

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Re: Implementing Veeam CDP, [Continuous Data Protection]

Veeam Logoby DeadEyedJacks » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:13 am

For in-guest CDP, you might want to take a look at SIOS Datakeeper.
We have some application vendors which insist on using MSCS and RDMs and they certify SIOS.
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