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performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby jkucewicz » Thu May 05, 2016 7:18 pm 1 person likes this post

Hi,
¿Is there a benchmark or performance guide for the different transport modes in veeam v9?
and ¿where can i find the best practices guide for v9?
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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby DaveWatkins » Thu May 05, 2016 9:06 pm 1 person likes this post

I don't think there is a best practices yet since v9 is still pretty new and almost everything from v8 applies.

Typically transport modes performance is in this order,
SAN
HotAdd
Network

So if you can get a block level capable server connected to your storage and make that the proxy that's the way to go. If it's FC then don't try and pass an FC adapter up into a VM, thats unsupported and won't be reliable, you need a physical server.

HotAdd is easy and typically almost as fast is long as you have the network to support it

Network/NBD is terrible on 1Gb, but much more performant on 10Gb and might be a batter option than HotAdd in that case
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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby EugeneK » Thu May 05, 2016 9:37 pm 1 person likes this post

A few things to add, while considering the options:
1) Networking type - 1/10/20/40Gbps. On fast networks, over 1Gbps, all modes will show a significant result.
2) Transport type:
- SAN - normally, the fastest method. Have to watch out for proper operational procedures, so not to end up with production volumes being auto-mounted. Gives the best results in terms of performance. Requires connectivity straight to the SAN fabric.
- HotAdd - my personal preference. Easy to deploy; allows to scale Proxy VM depending on the workload; storage-agnostic, should you change your backend infrastructure to a different type of storage vendor that may not work with Veeam as efficiently. Usually I see about 10% loss of performance, compared to SAN mode, mostly due to the overhead on running it on top of a Hypervisior. Allows to push traffic through the network different than systems Management one.
- NBD - the worst option, when it comes to performance. Ideally to be used with a Proxy appliance still to allow distributed mode for overall solution and optionally - push traffic over preferred network path instead of going through MGMT network of the hypervisor. Works well for a lower change rate environments, with CBT enabled and not too much changes happening within a reasonable window.
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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby jkucewicz » Fri May 06, 2016 11:29 am

Thanks for your help guys.
In this particular case, we have a 10Gb mgmt network, and all the veeam infrastructure is virtual (proxies and backup server) another thing to consider is that the VMs to backup will have a lot of disks, so in v7 it is known that "Due to known limitations, a HotAdd proxy can process one VM disk from the same VM at a time, so it is recommended to configure several smaller proxies..." does this still applies to v9?
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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby PTide » Fri May 06, 2016 12:32 pm 1 person likes this post

Hi,

does this still applies to v9?
No, it does not. Please see this KB for known limitations. Also in case of 10Gb mgmt Netowork Mode works fine.

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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby EugeneK » Fri May 06, 2016 3:38 pm 1 person likes this post

I'd recommend to make sure to also put in all 4 disk controllers to the Proxy VMs to allow up to 60 VMDK's processed concurrently by each proxy to work around the large number of disks and not to extend the backup window.
In fact, if the limit of VMDK's that can be attached to the Proxy is reached before all VMDK's for a VM are processed, you will see warnings like "HotAdd not supported, switching to Network mode".
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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby PTide » Fri May 06, 2016 3:48 pm 1 person likes this post

I'd recommend to make sure to also put in all 4 disk controllers to the Proxy VMs to allow up to 60 VMDK's processed concurrently by each proxy to work
Although the rule of 1 task = 1 core is a suggested practice, not a mandatory one, processing of 60 VMDKs in parallel would require a lot of CPU resources. Also Parallel processing may be limited by max concurrent tasks at the repository level.

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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby ITP-Stan » Mon May 09, 2016 6:59 am

For peace of mind I usually force Networking Mode in small setups without dedicated IT staff or monitoring.
Why? Because I have seen more than 1 case in which the proxy-VM still had the hot-added disks present and snapshots were taken of that proxy-VM and it's a big mess.
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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby PTide » Tue May 10, 2016 10:11 am

Hi,

Why? Because I have seen more than 1 case in which the proxy-VM still had the hot-added disks present and snapshots were taken of that proxy-VM and it's a big mess.
Were the snapshots taken by Veeam or by some other operator?

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Re: performance guide transport mode

Veeam Logoby EugeneK » Wed May 11, 2016 10:08 pm 1 person likes this post

The VMDKs would remain attached to the HotAdd Proxy only if there was a disconnect from the vCenter or another communication/task failure, that didn't let the job to complete correctly.
If this commonly happens in an environment, chances are there's also Orphaned and Stale snapshots, since the same would be observed even for the backups taken with the Networking mode (vCenter connection dropped/timed out, Hostd process on ESXi never reported snapshot status correctly etc)
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