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Synthetic Full take a week

Post by leduke » Feb 06, 2013 8:07 am

Hello.

I got a problem on veeam 6.5. I select "transform previous full backup chains into rollbacks" on Saturday.

All my backup jobs were fine all the week, but on Saturday, my backup job is locked on "Synthetic Full" (16% done)... Last week this operation takes 5 days long.

I unselect "transform previous full backup chains into rollbacks", but the synthetic full is still running on Saturday.

How can I do to skip this "synthetic full" ?

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by foggy » Feb 06, 2013 8:50 am

Alex, take a look at your backup mode settings (the same place where you have enabled/disabled transform feature) - you definitely have synthetic full set to run on Saturdays (check box right above the transform check box). You can disable synthetic fulls by clearing that check box, however, note that it is recommended to have periodic fulls (either active or synthetic) for a number of reasons.

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by dellock6 » Feb 06, 2013 9:35 am

Probably your target storage is too slow to do synthetic fulls or transforms. If you have enought space to hold another week of backups, maybe is better to switch to forward incremental backups.

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by leduke » Feb 06, 2013 1:04 pm

OK thank you for answering.

Is it possible to stop the job while performing ? It may corrupt the datatbase... ?

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by foggy » Feb 06, 2013 1:16 pm

Provided that you have transform option disabled, you will have the latest (currently being created synthetic) full backup file in inconsistent state after stopping the job. All older restore points will not be affected.

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by leduke » Feb 11, 2013 10:01 am

Are we able to modify all that parameters on the job or must I recreate It ? Because when I uncheck the box "transform previous full backup chains into rollbacks", the job is steel going to transform the older backup from full to rollback...

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by foggy » Feb 11, 2013 10:30 am

This change should take effect starting from the next job run, no need to re-create it. Do you observe alternate behavior?

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by leduke » Feb 11, 2013 12:32 pm

Not yet, i was not on site, I will try to modify settings tomorow. I will tell you... :wink:

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by leduke » Feb 12, 2013 8:12 am

I modify the parameters for my Job on my slow storage... I now perform a "reversed incremental" backup (in veeam documentation this method is recomended for disk to disk backup, the Incremental is recomended for disk to disk to tape ou WAN backup) and added a weekly "Active Full". I hop that it will be OK, now... :(

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by veremin » Feb 12, 2013 8:19 am

Hi, Alex.

You should be aware that with reversed incremental mode the need for performing active full backup isn’t so strong. According to the best practice mentioned here, it’s considered to be less important and should be performed not so frequently, once every 1-3 months.

Additionally, it might be worth reviewing this topic.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by leduke » Feb 13, 2013 8:42 am

So If I've got a fast storage system for my backup's target, what is the best backup option for a disk to disk (NAS) backup ?

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by foggy » Feb 13, 2013 11:48 am

It fully depends on your backup/restore requirements, there's no universal approach. Probably, this backup modes comparison will help you with your decision.

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by leduke » Feb 13, 2013 12:31 pm

Thank you for this document, it helps a lot.
With Reverse INcremental it is specified that "Last backup is always full", what does it Mean ? Each rollbackp point will refered to the last full ?

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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by veremin » Feb 13, 2013 12:37 pm

It means that the most recent restore point is always a full backup(.vbk), and it gets updated after every backup cycle, VB&R injects changes into the .vbk file to rebuild it to the most recent state of a VM.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Synthetic Full take a week

Post by foggy » Feb 13, 2013 12:39 pm

Alex, consider reviewing user guide at p.26 for better understanding of the backup modes. Thanks.

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