Vmware/Netapp replication using Veeam

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Vmware/Netapp replication using Veeam

Veeam Logoby Strecker25 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:36 pm

Hi all, we're building out our DR site and would like to use Veeam to manage replication/failover/failback.

Production site:
2xUCS 5108,8xB200M4
Netapp FAS8040/AFF8020 - NFS/VMFS datastores
Netapp E5660 for Veeam target

DR site
1xUCS 5108,8xB200M4
Netapp FAS2554

Originally we thought the replication jobs would be best, but we are finding the replication to be a bit slow and the failback time concerns me. Since we are licensed for SnapMirror on both ends, is there a way to utilize snapmirror as the datamover yet still be able to do spin up failover/failback with Veeam's workflow?
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Re: Vmware/Netapp replication using Veeam

Veeam Logoby foggy » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:04 pm

Hi Ryan, what are the bottleneck stats reported by your replication jobs? As an alternative, you could consider doing backup from SnapMirror and use this backup as source for replication jobs on target location.
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Re: Vmware/Netapp replication using Veeam

Veeam Logoby Strecker25 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:27 pm

The bottleneck is the target (FAS2554) which is expected since it's a pretty basic controller.

I'll dig deeper into this, but from the overview it looks like the steps would be:

1) snapmirror from PROD to DR
2) run a backup job (in addition to already running jobs) to "back up" the vm from the storage snapshot to the FAS2554 at the DR site
3) Create replication jobs to create VM's from the backups

That may work, but it seems like that would double the space usage? Both SnapMirror from prod to DR, and then a backup from SnapMirror into another datastore housing the Veeam backups?
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Re: Vmware/Netapp replication using Veeam

Veeam Logoby foggy » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:22 pm

You can configure SnapMirror as a secondary target right in the backup job and instruct Veeam B&R use it as a backup source. You can also configure snapshots retention to avoid unnecessary space utilization.
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Re: Vmware/Netapp replication using Veeam

Veeam Logoby Strecker25 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:46 pm

I may be misunderstanding dataflow, and I will test this tomorrow, but here is my understanding of how it would work.

Backup Job: FAS8040(Production site ) -->SnapMirror -->FAS2554(DR Site) --->Veeam pulls data back from DR disk ---> E5660 (Veeam target at production site)

Now the Replication job runs, with backup set as source. E5660 (Veeam target storage for backups) ----->FAS2554 (DR Site)


Unless I'm missing something here, there is no way in our scenario (production and backup storage at one location, DR storage at another site) to allow NetApp snapmirror and snapvault to do the data moving.

We would want this flow, with Veeam triggering the snapvault:

Replication Job: FAS8040 (production site) ---snapmirror/snapvault----> FAS2554 ---> Veeam then registers the replicated VM's in the DR cluster.

Maybe a feature request?
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Re: Vmware/Netapp replication using Veeam

Veeam Logoby foggy » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:18 pm

Strecker25 wrote:Backup Job: FAS8040(Production site ) -->SnapMirror -->FAS2554(DR Site) --->Veeam pulls data back from DR disk ---> E5660 (Veeam target at production site)

Now the Replication job runs, with backup set as source. E5660 (Veeam target storage for backups) ----->FAS2554 (DR Site)

There's not much sense in this in case E5660 is in production site, you'd need some backup repository located at DR site to optimally implement this scenario.
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