VEEAM Backup & replication installation on HYPER-V server

[pchastagnol]

Hello,
I have a physical server where I plan to install Windows Server 2012 R2 with Hyper-V role.
A virtual machine Windows Server 2012 R2 will be created on this server.
This virtual server will have the domain controller role, file server, print, DNS, DHCP ...

I have to set up a backup of the virtual machine with VEEAM Backup & Replication, but I do not have a second server to install VEEAM.
Is it possible to install VEEAM Backup on Hyper-V hypervisor to backup the virtual machines hosted on the same hypervisor and is that it will work correctly ?

The backups will be stored on a NAS server.

I know that the best practice is to install VEEAM on a dedicated physical server for backups, but I do not have a second physical server currently.

Thank you in advance for your answer.

Philippe

[Shestakov]

Hello Philippe,
Yes, you can deploy Veeam Backup & Replication on a VM of the same hypervisor or on the hypervisor itself.
Backup repository can be also added in the same manner as it would be if you installed VBR on the physical server.
Thank you!

[foggy]

I know that the best practice is to install VEEAM on a dedicated physical server for backups, but I do not have a second physical server currently.

There's actually no such best practice, the best practice is to use off-host backup to shift backup processing from the host to a dedicated machine.

[nefes]

How do you present your NAS? As CIFS share or as mounted disk?
If second, it is better to mount it to hypervisor itself, not to VM inside it.

[pchastagnol]

Hi,

Thank you for your answers !

The repositoriry backup will be a LUN on the NAS Server. This repository will be added by the Wndows iSCSIconnector on the Hyper-V server.
I can't create a second VM to install VEEAM because I have only 1 Windows server 2012 standard open license that allows me to install windows server 2012 on a physical server + 1 virtual machine.

That's why I want to install VEEAM on the physical server that will ensure the hypervisor role and backup server to back up the virtual machine created on that hypervisor.

So you confirm to me that VEEAM will be able to save the virtual machine in this configuration?

Thank you

Philippe

[Shestakov]

Yes, we do confirm. Thanks.

[spenny]

Hi Nikita,

I have a partner asking about Microsoft Licensing implications for Veeam's install based on Microsoft Windows Server 2012R2 STANDARD deployments at Cx sites.

Obviously we can install Veeam on the hypervisor itself but he wants to know if installing Veeam Backup & Replication Server onto the Hyper-V hypervisor physical Windows O/S will consume a Windows Server license, thereby requiring the client purchase an additional Windows Server 2012R2 server license?

Details of Cx environments below if you need.
• A single physical server
• Have purchased 1 copy of Windows Server 2012R2 Standard
• Have installed Microsoft Hyper-V 2012R2 Server as the hypervisor (full GUI)
• Have installed 2x virtual machines with Windows Server 2012R2 operating systems on them

Thanks,
Sam

[veremin]

What do you mean when saying that software consumes a server license? Can you elaborate on that? Or you're more interested to know whether or not VB&R can be installed on Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 machine?

[Shestakov]

Sam, Veeam B&R doesn`t consume/require an extra Windows Server license.
You can also check system requirements the server on which you plan to deploy VBR should meet. Thanks!

[Vitaliy S.]

Obviously we can install Veeam on the hypervisor itself but he wants to know if installing Veeam Backup & Replication Server onto the Hyper-V hypervisor physical Windows O/S will consume a Windows Server license, thereby requiring the client purchase an additional Windows Server 2012R2 server license?

Installing Veeam B&R to Hyper-V hypervisor physical Windows O/S is like installing any other application, not sure why do you have this question.

[nicold]

Hi all,
Perhaps there’s a grey area here in who I should be approaching for an answer to my question. These are purely Microsoft licensing orientated questions: I do know that I can install Veeam on to a physical Microsoft Hyper-V server GUI installation, my question is am I allowed to without violating Microsoft’s licensing requirements as the client is already consuming the Windows Server 2012R2 Standard licenses with the 2x VMs with Windows Server O/Ss on them; the hypervisor is currently just that – a hypervisor running a couple of Windows VMs, we would like to see the hypervisor leveraged further to provide the backup functionality. I can understand that perhaps Veeam is not used to these small scales of Windows Server VMs so maybe this question has not come up before. We love the Veeam product and now with Cloud Connect it’s even better, we are just attempting to bring Veeam Backup & Replication to these smallest-scale clients and wish to understand the potential for additional costs when proposing these solutions to clients.

[Shestakov]

Hi Donny,
Thanks for kind words first of all.
As was mentioned above, Veeam Backup and Replication(VBR) doesn`t require any dedicated Windows license. You can have VBR installed on any machine, virtual or physical running Microsoft Windows OS. Regard VBR as an application you install on the device, which doesn`t demand separate machine with the Microsoft license.
Hope it answers your question. Thanks!

[PTide]

Hi nicold,

As it is said in Windows Server 2012 R2 Licensing Datasheet on page 4:

When a customer is running all allowed virtual instances,
the physical instance may only be used to manage and
service the virtual instances. For information about licensing
in virtual environments, see the Microsoft Volume Licensing
Brief: Licensing Microsoft Server Products in Virtual
Environments white paper.

So, I wish that using Veeam products could be considered as a "manage and service the virtual instances", but I'd double check with Micorsoft if you can use third-party products to manage your VMs.

Thank you.

[debeerd]

Hi everyone, I have a quick question about what server to install Veeam Backup Enterprise manager and Veeam Backup and Replication.
I have 2 physical Servers, Server 1 is for our Student Management System running on Server 2008R2.
Server 2 is my Hyper-V Host server running Server 2012R2. On server 2 I have 13 Hyper-V servers including Domain controller etc.
Option 1: I install Veeam Backup Enterprise manager and Veeam Backup and Replication on my Hyper-V Host server
Option 2: Create a Hyper-V server and install Veeam Backup Enterprise manager and Veeam Backup and Replication on there
I want to backup all the Hyper-V servers and also the data from the Student Management system.

[foggy]

Hi Daniel, please review answers above. Thanks.

[debeerd]

Thanks, I don't have a licensing issue though as we have volume licensing.
I have created a new VM with server 2012R2 and installed Veeam Backup Enterprise manager and Veeam Backup and Replication on it.
Problem now is when I open the Backup and Replication console, I cannot log in.
I have tried local admin and domain admin but it keeps saying target machine actively refused connection.
The firewall is turned off and local sub net is excluded from the proxy.
I get the same error when I try to add a backup server to the Backup Enterprise manager.

[foggy]

Did you use one of these accounts to install the product?

[debeerd]

Hi Foggy, I used my domain admin login to install both.

This is the error on the server trying to log in:


This is from the Backup Enterprise Monitor trying to add the server:

[debeerd]

Ok, seems after a couple times of uninstalling and re-installing it now goes in. Not sure why though.

[debeerd]

Alrighty, I have now finally got it setup and backed up vm's. Just need to setup offsite.

Quick question, can I backup another physical server ?
I have been going through the settings and not been able to, seems only Hyper-V machines ?

[Vitaliy S.]

Hi Daniel,

Veeam B&R allows backing up VMs only. If you need to back up another physical server, then Veeam Agent for Windows (ex-Veeam Endpoint Backup) should be a way to go here.

Thanks!

[jackshomer]

This happen to me the other day, you should make sure your Veeam services are running.

[debeerd]

Hi Daniel,

Veeam B&R allows backing up VMs only. If you need to back up another physical server, then Veeam Agent for Windows (ex-Veeam Endpoint Backup) should be a way to go here.

Thanks!

Thanks, I will download and check it out. Seems to be free
Do I need to install this on the physical server I wish to back up or can I install it on the same hyper-v server I have Backup & replication on ?

[PTide]

Hi,

Do I need to install this on the physical server I wish to back up

This.

Thanks

[marieelieg]

Hello dears,

Is it supported by Veeam to install the Veeam Backup Server on a windows server with the Hyper-V role enabled?

Thanks in advance and have a great day!

[DGrinev]

Hello,

Yes, you can deploy the Backup server on a Windows server with the Hyper-V role.
Please review this thread for additional information. Thanks!

[marieelieg]

Thank you DGrinev!